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Hi Rachymac
I am either your 1st cousins twice removed or something like that
I have the Karr family photo album if I sent you photos would your aunt be able to tell us who some of them are? Also does she know how Nell who married Tommy Shaw fits into the family. I last saw Nell and Tommy in 1998 and auntie Nell was able to name a few of the people in the photos her mum and brother so she must be related via the Karr side but it was such an exciting evening as she showed me a hankie one of her relatives embroidered and gave to King Billy on the way to the Boyne and he later returned it to her among other fantastic stories that I forget a lot of what was said. Oh another thing I would love to know the O'Neills from Lurgan David. Sam and Sue does your aunt know who their parents where I visited them all my life and have no idea where they fit into the tree.

regards Daisy
Below is the clipping when Tommy died and sorry for typo's byt I am in Aussie and if I have the light on the mossies will chew every bit of flesh left on my legs and typing in the dark its a bit hard


Last Great War veteran dies at 102
By David Sharrock, Ireland Correspondent 12:01AM GMT 06 Mar 2002

THE last surviving Irishman to have served in the Great War was buried with military honours yesterday.

Thomas "Tommy" Shaw, who was 102, died after a fall last weekend. His wife Eleanor, 94, attended yesterday's funeral in Bangor, Co Down, where a bugler from the Royal Irish Regiment sounded Last Post.

Mr Shaw, born in June 1899, joined the Royal Irish Rifles in January 1916. He was on his way to the front when he was seen by his brother, a military police officer.

Mr Shaw was arrested for lying about his age and sent back to Ireland. In 1916 the official minimum age for service in the front line was 18.

As soon as he reached that age he returned to the battlefields with the 16th Battalion the Royal Irish Rifles and saw action at Ypres, Messines and Passchendaele. During the Second World War Mr Shaw was responsible for meat rationing in Northern Ireland. It was as a civil servant working at Stormont that he met his wife "Nell". They were married for 60 years.

Mr Shaw was buried at Clandeboye cemetery, a Union flag decorated with poppies covering his coffin. A Royal Irish pipe major played the lament Flowers of the Forest.

The only information I have found regarding the Karr side of the family is that "Auntie Mac"
was Emma Rebeca O'Niele's sister Elizabeth I have a letter Emma wrote to "My Dear Lizzie"
I know auntie Mac was my granny's favorite aunt. Her name was Elizabeth McMurray she died 22/10/1954 she was a widow with no children. I have her last will and testament and Des you might be interested your dad was named in the will and left the sum of 30 pounds
as where all John and Emma's children. The will also tells me she had a brother Willian Thomas Karr who had a daughter called Lily. After all expenses paid and a granite headstone the remainder was given to the cripples home in Blefast.
So I now know there was at least 1 brother and 2 sisters in the Karr family anyone know anything else I would love to here from you

Regards Daisy

Hi Desmond

Uncle Murrays son lol long long time when I used to visit uncle murray and he would take me to the round tower I have lots of photos of your family was it your sister who had twins?

My granny uncle murrays 3rd youngest sister is also buried with her mum and dad.

The last 2 sisters have died in the last few years Glady and Paddy (Patrica) the youngest was the last to die. I have used this site once and have no idea now how to email you or anything ? Did you get the old family tree of David o'neill?? if not I have it

Regards Janet

Not sure how to add a new post this is just some infgo I have about some of the children of John and Emma


I asked granny years ago to tell me about her family and have just dug out the book thought I would post the info here in case it helps anyone

John Henry O'Neill was born 6th Aug 1874 died 5th June 1949
Emma Karr born 10th Aug 1874 died 20th March 1948
James Owen Roe O'Neill (Jim) and Elizabeth Irene (Norah) where both boarders at Methodist College
The workhouse had a rule that there where only 14 boys allowed to live there at any given time so at the age of 15
William Herbert (Bertie) was sent to London to work he died in Rothsay where he lived with his 2nd wife Annie his first wife died
Emma Balmer (my granny) was born in the work house and went to PE Lurgan school
she worked as a civil servant married James Burling McCartney they divorced shortly after the war had 2 sons Kerry and Ross
Ann Beatrice (Nan) was the headmistriss of Kilmacrenan National school and the organist in the parish church for 37 years
Murray was manager of the Belfast bank in Antrim
John Henry (Jack) worked for BP
Gladys was a nurse and married Colin Kearns  ( a surgeon who recieved obe or such like from the queen)   who died when I was very young
children: **
Norah was a teacher and left to work as a clerk at the Clows Flour mill Portadown she married James Alex Wier (uncle Ackie) Ackie's family has something to do with the coach business
Children: Sam (deceased)
** and I think ** (not sure about this)
Patrica (Paddy) was a civil servant and married Robert
Children: **
Jim was a mechanic for George Rowland & Harris Newry George Rowland was Norah's brother in law Jim served in the 1st worl war I have cards and hankies he sent to his mother from France and some lovely photos of him


I would love to learn about the Karr side I know very little would like to slap my self for not listening more and asking more questions when I could

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daisy