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Hello Quoka,

Hugh and John McGRILLIS are the same person. In his convict & marriage info his name is Hugh but in later records he is John.

Hugh/John is my gg. grandfather.  He was born in Belfast and died in Rockhampton, Queensland.  His cert. of freedom states that in 1849 he sailed to California, maybe for the gold rush but was back in Sydney in 1853 where he married my gg. grandmother Elizabeth KENNY.

Please let me know I you discover anything about him or his family.

Hope this helps,
Marg S

Hi Gerry,

Thanks so much for not giving up. Greatly appreciate it.

I had the same thoughts that Bridget might marry in the Roman Catholic church that was where Bridget's sister Elizabeth married in 1853 but there is nothing that matches her. 

I have thought it through and think Bridget might have married after her sister moved to QLD, otherwise Elizabeth would have known her married name and not addressed her ad in the SMH to Bridget KENNY.

I have checked out all Bridget KENNY marriages and corresponding deaths on NSW BDM with Trove and Ancestry and seem to have discounted all except for the following -
**  Marriage - V1854648 81/1854  MCCULLOUGH  JOHN  KENNEY  BRIDGET  QC  -  Presbyterian Sydney, Scots Church (Pitt Street)   - 31 January 1854, date courtesy Gerry, Rootschat
*** Death - 5821/1898  MCCULLOUGH  BRIDGET  UNKNOWN  UNKNOWN  LEICHHARDT 

The only way to sort it is to apply for a transcription of the marriage and see what it reveals.  Fingers crossed.

Many thanks,
Marg

Thanks everyone for all the lookups and info.  You are all soooo amazingly helpful   

The informant on Hugh/John's death cert was Timothy Cranby, landlord of the house in which he died - William St, Rockhampton.  So unfortunately no clues there 

Sadly it seems like he died with no family around him.  Cause of death - old age, debility, and alcoholism.

Would love to find what happened to his daughters - Mary b. 1855 and Jane b. 1860 and his wife Elizabeth.

Can someone tell me if it is possible that they died and their deaths were not recorded?

Thanks,
Marg

Thank you Neil, Ros, Giblet, Merlin, Leanne & Debra for your thoughts and replies.  I will try to answer all your queries 

It seems that there is confusion about names which is what I have found with just about every ancestor I have researched so it is nothing new to me  . 

He is definitely Hugh McGRILLIS as according to his Convict Indent he had tattoos which said "INH  HMC" and "Hugh MCGRILLIS 81(something that looks like a back to front '3') 6" plus a cross and a anchor.  Heavens knows what the numbers mean??  Any ideas??

As you can see from various BDM records their names were also John McGILLIS/McGRELLIS/McGILLISS etc and Eliz(s)abeth KENNEY/KENNY/KINNEY.  All my info and second names are have from certificates and records.

The death cert for John MCGRILLIS 1884 has the correct age and that he was born in Ireland so I feel quite sure I have the right guy especially considering that I think he was the only McGRILLIS in Qld at the time.

It is a good idea to contact South Rockhampton Cemetery to see if Elizabeth is buried there.  Thanks for that thought.  Common sense really but as it seems to happen with me, when I am in the thick of it, I tend to miss simple things that are staring me in the face.  I suppose that is why people post queries to get others thoughts

The marriage cert for Hugh and Elizabeth states they both signed their name with an "X" so with them both being illiterate and an Irish accent, no wonder we are finding so many different spellings    It is interesting that Bridget was not a witness on her sisters marriage cert.

With regards to Bridget marrying John McCullough, the info seems to fit but I will search for a link to be sure.

Neil Todd could you please tell me where you found the info on Sarah McCullough "Sarah M Mccullough (1866 - 1877).  Born in Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia on 1866 to John McCullough and Bridget Britelia Carroll. She passed away on 1877 in Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia."  I cant find the exact info mentioning "Britelia Carrol" on NSW BDM.  This could be the contributing factor in figuring if there are more than one marriage of a John McCullough and Bridget especially if "Carrol" is a surname.

Gee, I didn't realise that I posted about Hugh & Bridget back in 2007.  Goes to show just how long these elusive ancestors of mind take to track down

Any more thoughts would be appreciated,
Many thanks,
Marg S

Hi from Australia,

Further to my previous posts from years ago I have finally found a possible link to the birth of my  gg. grandfather, convict John DAINES, born abt 1813 Norfolk who committed highway robbery at Wymondham in 1831 with his partners in crime were William MILLER and James POLL.  All 3 were transported to Sydney, Australia in 1832 where they settled and married.

There is a John DAINES born 23 October 1813 at Carleton Rhode and baptised 20 Nov 1813, son of John DANES/DAINES, occupation Carpenter, and Sarah BARNARD. They were married 18 Nov 1812 by banns. Witnesses were an Ebenezar MILLER and Mary DANES/DAINS.

As convict John's occupation was also a Carpenter and Carleton Rhode is close to Wymondham, I am hoping this might be the link I have been searching for.

I would greatly appreciate help from anyone has a link with any on the names or who can head me in the right direction with finding further info.

Thanks,
Marg S
Sydney, Australia