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The Common Room / Re: Marriage certificates
« on: Sunday 19 October 25 13:48 BST (UK)  »
Just to add another perspective to marrying by licence and as someone who has done just that, albeit by civil licence, there may be no reason  other than the couple decided, in the spur of the moment, it was a good idea and wanted to be married!

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Cumberland / Re: 1897 Rescue from Drowning in Carlisle.
« on: Monday 22 September 25 20:16 BST (UK)  »
Hanes Teulu thank you so much. Also Maddys 52 great stuff. Really helpful. Thank you everyone.

Oh, if anyone has or knows of a photograph of Byron Street from before the houses were knocked down or even of a photo of the area where this accident took place I would be really interested.

Thanks also Gan Yam. You help me with every query I put up and it is mutely appreciated. I had to research what a Mill Race was. Every day is a school day.
You might already have this which is an ariel view of Byron Street and the surrounding area. Byron Street is the street to the side of the building with the black at the bottom and white at the top.  This is a pub called the Joiners Arms, known locally as the Blue Lugs, and is still open and trading today. https://cumbriaimagebank.org.uk/frontend.php?pos=1&action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(^|%20+)ct17738($|%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1hbGwlM0JNQVRDSEVTJTNCJTI4JTVFJTdDJTVCJTVFYS16QS1aJTVEJTJCJTI5Qnlyb25fU3RyZWV0JTI4JTI0JTdDJTVCJTVFYS16QS1aJTVEJTJCJTI5JmFjdGlvbj1zZWFyY2g=

and this one you can just about see one of the houses in Byron Street.  This was taken during the floods in 1925, but the area has been flooded again since then, the worst being 2005 and 2015

https://cumbriaimagebank.org.uk/frontend.php?pos=2&action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(^|%20+)ct30436($|%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZrZXl3b3Jkcz1hbGwlM0JNQVRDSEVTJTNCJTI4JTVFJTdDJTVCJTVFYS16QS1aJTVEJTJCJTI5Qnlyb25fU3RyZWV0JTI4JTI0JTdDJTVCJTVFYS16QS1aJTVEJTJCJTI5JmFjdGlvbj1zZWFyY2g=

This link below is a photo of where the incident likely took place.  This is the Little Caldew where the brewery used to be.  Just after the white and red modern building is a bridge/road to cross the mill race and probably the bridge mentioned in the article.  To the back of this area is Milbourne Street and the large chimney is Dixon's Chimney, at one supposed to be the tallest structure in Europe.
https://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/98/76/987670_2455bd18.jpg

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Cumberland / Re: 1897 Rescue from Drowning in Carlisle.
« on: Sunday 21 September 25 23:28 BST (UK)  »
It sounds like the little boy fell into the Little Caldew which was a mill race for cloth manufacturers and other business' along its route from Holme Head Bay until it reaches the River Eden, further west than where the Caldew River joins the River Eden.  It is still there today, but virtually no water in it! That area of the 'new brewery' is now called The Maltings. The Little Caldew would have been easily accessible from the back of Milbourne Street and it surrounding courts, which isn't the case today.  Byron Street (or what's left of it) and  the Little Caldew are close, (probably 2 minutes walk) and it is a fair assumption that young Henry is your Henry.   


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The Lighter Side / Re: What is your wildest coincidence?
« on: Friday 29 August 25 20:42 BST (UK)  »
When I started researching OH's family tree, an unusual name popped up in his tree which I thought I'd seen before.  On checking I discovered that OH and I share a 2nd cousin, but we are not related to each other.

The other coincidence is my neighbour of over 30 years turns out to be my 4th cousin!

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The Common Room / Re: Definition of adulterer/adulteress
« on: Thursday 07 August 25 15:54 BST (UK)  »

For those of you with sharper minds and who can cope with definitional contradictions,
do I have to be an ADULT to be an ADULTERER?
If so, what is the definition of an ADULT in our United Kingdom please?

If you have to be married to be an adulterer, then in Scotland and Northern Ireland you have to be at least 16 and in England and Wales you have to be at least 18. Not sure that makes you an adult though.

Adult and Adultery do not share a common root, so no you don't have to be an "adult" to commit adultery, just married.

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The Common Room / Re: What is a W. A. S. Inspection (Eng)? (1939 REGISTER)
« on: Tuesday 05 August 25 20:54 BST (UK)  »
Just to add to all the ideas Goggle search has this to say ??? ???

"In the 1939 Register, "W. A. S" likely refers to Women's Auxiliary Service, which was a part of the civil defence services during World War II. The register includes various abbreviations to denote different roles within institutions, with "W. A. S" being one of them."  ;D ;D

That makes sense, especially now when I look at the names.  ::)

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The Common Room / Re: What is a W. A. S. Inspection (Eng)? (1939 REGISTER)
« on: Tuesday 05 August 25 20:39 BST (UK)  »
It may not be relevant but W.A.S appears often under civil defence (not occupation), sometimes with ARP or First Aid after it. 

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The Common Room / Re: Adoption and Original birth certificate
« on: Tuesday 05 August 25 20:10 BST (UK)  »
My MIL was adopted in 1930.  I have her adoption certificate and her original birth entry definitely still appears in the indexes.  I also have the original court order for the adoption and this gives the reference in the birth indexes to  the original birth entry. 

Was he legally adopted and if so could the legal paper work still exist somewhere?   Also are you sure  that the birth name that is  know is correct eg, he may think his name was "John" at birth, but could it have been James John and maybe appear in the indexes as James J making it hard to find.

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The Common Room / Re: What is a W. A. S. Inspection (Eng)? (1939 REGISTER)
« on: Tuesday 05 August 25 19:28 BST (UK)  »
When I search for occupation "W. S. Inspection" in Bradford in the 1939 Register on Ancestry another chap comes up - John S Brown, DOB 1917 - can someone with a subscription have a look?

The entry for John S Brown, gives occupation as W.O. Inspection Engineer Cll.  The "Cll" part is not clear.

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