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Cork / Re: JULIA CAIN
« on: Tuesday 18 October 22 12:20 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your guidance, dawnsh.
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Cork / Re: JULIA CAIN
« on: Friday 14 October 22 23:23 BST (UK) »
Hello Emma,
Unfortunately, l haven't been able to find out anymore about Julia Cain. She was my 3x great grandmother. Not sure what relationship you are to Eadie, but she was my aunt, my dad's sister. Don't know how we can go about contacting through email safely, but would you want to? Maybe we have closer information to share?
Unfortunately, l haven't been able to find out anymore about Julia Cain. She was my 3x great grandmother. Not sure what relationship you are to Eadie, but she was my aunt, my dad's sister. Don't know how we can go about contacting through email safely, but would you want to? Maybe we have closer information to share?
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London and Middlesex / Re: Music Hall Artiste?
« on: Friday 13 July 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hello All,
Apart from that possible death of my David/Daniel in Ramsgate, l haven't found any definite information on him after the 1901C. Thinking that may not be him, and the fact that he seems to have just disappeared, l wondered if he may have emigrated. There were a few Daniels that went to New York, one was a Daniel William. Also, one came from New York to Liverpool in 1917. l need to pay to look at those records, But another possible path to follow is WW1.
Apart from that possible death of my David/Daniel in Ramsgate, l haven't found any definite information on him after the 1901C. Thinking that may not be him, and the fact that he seems to have just disappeared, l wondered if he may have emigrated. There were a few Daniels that went to New York, one was a Daniel William. Also, one came from New York to Liverpool in 1917. l need to pay to look at those records, But another possible path to follow is WW1.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Music Hall Artiste?
« on: Sunday 08 July 18 22:08 BST (UK) »
Hello All,
Milliepede, l've checked the 1939C and there's no David or Daniel Haley living in Stepney. Many thanks JJen for your info. As you say, always best to err, but it does look interesting. And thanks CaroleW for your info. lt's all much appreciated.
Milliepede, l've checked the 1939C and there's no David or Daniel Haley living in Stepney. Many thanks JJen for your info. As you say, always best to err, but it does look interesting. And thanks CaroleW for your info. lt's all much appreciated.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Music Hall Artiste?
« on: Sunday 08 July 18 14:19 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your replies, Milliepede & CaroleW. That may be the right death, which would answer the problems l've had looking for Daniel or David William. l have been unable to find him on neither the 1911C or marriages. l also looked for his parents on the 1911C, just incase he had changed his name again, but was still living at home, but they're not on there either. They would have both been 70 by then, perhaps they had died. l had found on Probates, a Bartholomew Haley [David had a younger brother Bartholomew], who had lived in Narrow St, Limehouse, along with his brother David, who was his sole executor. But then realised that this Bartholomew was the wrong one, as he had died in 1889.
Milliepede, l've just spotted you suggest looking at 1939, l'll look at that. Thanks again for your help.
Milliepede, l've just spotted you suggest looking at 1939, l'll look at that. Thanks again for your help.
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London and Middlesex / Music Hall Artiste?
« on: Friday 06 July 18 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hello All,
On the 1901 Census, l've come across a relative, DANIEL HALEY [son] aged 25, b. Stepney, whose profession is down as Music Hall Artiste Act, own account. He was actually born David William Haley. [did he change his name when he became an artiste?] l've tried googling him, but no information. l would be grateful if anyone could help give me any information please. Thanks.
On the 1901 Census, l've come across a relative, DANIEL HALEY [son] aged 25, b. Stepney, whose profession is down as Music Hall Artiste Act, own account. He was actually born David William Haley. [did he change his name when he became an artiste?] l've tried googling him, but no information. l would be grateful if anyone could help give me any information please. Thanks.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Philip Cannon, fishmonger
« on: Wednesday 04 May 16 19:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Annette,
Lesson learned! Again, many thanks for the help, and jomcd967, thanks and you are so right. When l've needed help or advice in the past there has always been, as you say, helpful, clever people willing to help. Thank you so much.
Lesson learned! Again, many thanks for the help, and jomcd967, thanks and you are so right. When l've needed help or advice in the past there has always been, as you say, helpful, clever people willing to help. Thank you so much.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Philip Cannon, fishmonger
« on: Monday 02 May 16 15:05 BST (UK) »
Hello All,
Yes Annette, l have got myself in a complete muddle on this one! The info l have came from Ancestry:- Philip Cannon b. abt. 1786, Essex.
Jane Cannon b. abt. 1786, Essex.
birth of son William Cannon, abt. 1820, Essex.
birth of son Thomas Cannon, 1822, Colchester, Essex.
death of wife Jane Cannon, Colchester, april 1849 aged 63.
Looking at all the baptisms you found, l am wondering now if it's possible, looking at the variations on the Cannon surname [5], wether Ann and Jane could be the same person? l've just had a look on Family Search and notice that they too have John b. 1808, but their info has:
Philip Canning, father
Wife Kitty.
Son John b. 3rd april 1808
St. Leonard, Colchester, Essex.
Could Ann, Jane and Kitty be the same person using variations on her Christian names?
Ann and Philip getting married in Ireland is probably why l wasn't able to find any marriage etc and probably that's where the story now ends. But one last thing is that Philip died 1847, but on his son Thomas's 2nd wedding cert it doesn't state that he is deceased, and the wedding was in 1949.
Thank you all so much for the time and trouble you have gone to, it's very much appreciated.
Yes Annette, l have got myself in a complete muddle on this one! The info l have came from Ancestry:- Philip Cannon b. abt. 1786, Essex.
Jane Cannon b. abt. 1786, Essex.
birth of son William Cannon, abt. 1820, Essex.
birth of son Thomas Cannon, 1822, Colchester, Essex.
death of wife Jane Cannon, Colchester, april 1849 aged 63.
Looking at all the baptisms you found, l am wondering now if it's possible, looking at the variations on the Cannon surname [5], wether Ann and Jane could be the same person? l've just had a look on Family Search and notice that they too have John b. 1808, but their info has:
Philip Canning, father
Wife Kitty.
Son John b. 3rd april 1808
St. Leonard, Colchester, Essex.
Could Ann, Jane and Kitty be the same person using variations on her Christian names?
Ann and Philip getting married in Ireland is probably why l wasn't able to find any marriage etc and probably that's where the story now ends. But one last thing is that Philip died 1847, but on his son Thomas's 2nd wedding cert it doesn't state that he is deceased, and the wedding was in 1949.
Thank you all so much for the time and trouble you have gone to, it's very much appreciated.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Philip Cannon, fishmonger
« on: Saturday 30 April 16 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hello jomcd967,
Thanks for your help and sorry for the delay in replying, but l'm still trying to work out the info l had and what you have found. Philip had a son Thomas b. 1822, who had Thomas b. 1845, who had Thomas b.1978, and l've got a bit mixed up with them. l know that Thomas 1845 was born in Deptford, but it looks like his dad, Thomas 1822 was born Colchester. This Thomas had a brother William b. 1820 and their father was Philip b. 1786, but all born in Colchester. Their mother was Jane b. 1786 in Colchester. Thing is the 1841C family you found fits in, the siblings would be:- Philip b. 1819, William b. 1820, Thomas b. 1822 and Jane 1824. The eldest son and daughter usually took their parents Christian names which also fits. But the 1841C mothers' name is Ann, and she and Philip are both born in Ireland. There's also the daughter Betsy b. 1837. Jane would have been 55 when she had her and Ann would have been 56. Maybe Betsy was a granddaughter. Thanks again for your help, it's given me more to look at. l will follow the new threads to see if l can sort this out.
Thanks for your help and sorry for the delay in replying, but l'm still trying to work out the info l had and what you have found. Philip had a son Thomas b. 1822, who had Thomas b. 1845, who had Thomas b.1978, and l've got a bit mixed up with them. l know that Thomas 1845 was born in Deptford, but it looks like his dad, Thomas 1822 was born Colchester. This Thomas had a brother William b. 1820 and their father was Philip b. 1786, but all born in Colchester. Their mother was Jane b. 1786 in Colchester. Thing is the 1841C family you found fits in, the siblings would be:- Philip b. 1819, William b. 1820, Thomas b. 1822 and Jane 1824. The eldest son and daughter usually took their parents Christian names which also fits. But the 1841C mothers' name is Ann, and she and Philip are both born in Ireland. There's also the daughter Betsy b. 1837. Jane would have been 55 when she had her and Ann would have been 56. Maybe Betsy was a granddaughter. Thanks again for your help, it's given me more to look at. l will follow the new threads to see if l can sort this out.