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Norfolk Completed Look up Requests / Re: Lydia Drake Chilleystone - COMPLETED THANKS
« on: Thursday 27 October 11 16:48 BST (UK)  »
Hello Blue Spirit
I rarely come to Roots Chat and only came here 'accidentally' today when I googled the name Chilleystone. One reference brought me straight to the 'Lydia Drake Chilleystone' thread here, but I didn't read all of it - so I have only just seen that two of your family names are BARKER and FINCHAM.
My g.g.g.grandmother was Frances Barker 1807-1869 (daughter of Jeremiah Barker & Frances Stearn).  She married James Chilly.  I am descended from their daughter Sarah.  Another of their daughters, Virtue Chillystone, married William Fincham.
'Chilly' was an abbreviation or nick-name for the variously spelt Chilleystone.
If you are interested I can tell you more - or, as I said earlier, you are welcome to view my Chillistone Family Tree on ancestry.co.uk.
Lauren

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Norfolk Completed Look up Requests / Re: Lydia Drake Chilleystone - COMPLETED THANKS
« on: Thursday 27 October 11 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Hello Blue Spirit,
I was at the Rockland St. Peter graveyard recently.  I was mainly looking for 'Chill(e)y/Chill(e)ystone/Chillestone/Chilly, etc.,etc'., graves.  Many though, I know, were too poor to have gravestones.
Lauren

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Norfolk Completed Look up Requests / Re: Lydia Drake Chilleystone - COMPLETED THANKS
« on: Thursday 27 October 11 15:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi - Lydia was the daughter of Charlotte Chilleystone (1805-1884) and her common-law husband Thomas Drake (1807).  You will find them and their children on all the Censuses from 1851-1881, living in Chapel Street, Rockland St. Peter, Norfolk.
They had 7 children (Thomas Drake had 1 living child from previous marriage. He was widowed twice, but never married Charlotte). Some of their children use the name Chilleystone/Chilly-Drake and some Drake.  All of the children of Charlotte Chilleystone and common-law husband Thomas were baptised in the Church of St. Peter, Rockland St. Peter with the name 'Chilleystone' and their births registered under the name of 'Chilleystone'.
If you subscribe to ancestry.co.uk, you can see my Chillistone Family Tree which is viewable to anyone. Note how the spelling of the name has changed.
Lauren

 

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Jan
I live in West Sussex, England.  I've never heard of the Ryerson Index, never knew that Frederick had a winter home in Queensland, and would never have found the record of his death - so thank you so much for that information.  Finding out all these details means a lot to me - and possibly even more to my father who personally knew Frederick's siblings.  My father says that if he could turn the clock back he would ask so many questions of his aunts, uncles and grandmother.  For example, why on earth did their father, William Joseph Campion, use an alias.  On all documents relation to Births, Marriages and Deaths he used the correct 'Campion' name, but apart from one exception, he always used the name 'Lewis' for Census purposes.  I gather that he was a very moral man and he lived a well-ordered and responsible life.  I can only speculate that when he came to England, from his native Ireland, the Irish were very unpopular in England and he thought it best to keep as anonymous as possible to 'Officialdom'.  The 'Fenians' were blowing up parts of London then and tried to assassinate Queen Victoria, so he probably wanted to keep his identity (and therefore his Irishness) at a low profile.  None of his children used an alias after they left home.

I have enlisted the help of an Irish Genealogist to help me trace William Joseph's Irish roots - I have found Irish records to be next to useless!

Thank you for all the extra information you have given me - I shall write it all up properly in the book I'm making - a book for future generations of my family.

Best wishes,
Lauren

PS  Joan is Rita and Guisseppe's granddaughter?
By the way, Frederick James is not the only Campion who went abroard.  His older brother, Josiah Alfred (b.1863) tried his luck in Argentina.  He was there a few years, but it didn't work out and he came back to England, settling in Manchester.  All of that Campion family were honest, hard-working, upright and enterprising.  William Joseph would have been proud of them all.




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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 23:49 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Alex and Jan on Wednesday 28 October 09 20:54 GMT (UK)
The webpage was the NSW BDM website - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
On there I found the marriage of Joseph Bettington and Florence McLerie in 1899
Also Joseph's death in 1905
Also Joseph and Florence had 3 children - Miriam, Joseph and Florence.
I will have to write a long letter to my friend to explain all this !
Jan

Hello Jan

I went to the NSW BDM website you mentioned and tried to find Frederick James Campion's death.  My search returned ZERO results!  Do you happen to know the details of the when, where and why?  Would be grateful if you could let me know!

Lauren 

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 23:29 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jan for that further information.  I, too, need to update someone on all this new info and have found that this website does not let you cut and paste, forward the page or save the page!  Pity!

Also a pity is that the granddaughter of Guisseppe and Rita is not related to me :)  Say 'Hello' to her from me.

Are you in Australia?

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Alex & Jan

Yes.  He maried Florence Emily Bettington nee McLerie, (widow), on 9th November 1906 at St. James' Church of England, in Sydney.  They were both aged 28.

The following year on 8th August 1907 at Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, Sydney, N.S.W. their first child was born: William Frederick Campion.  Father William Frederick is a Jeweller.  A daughter, Margaret May, was born later.

Frederick James Campion, his son William Frederick Campion and daughter (no details yet), Margaret May, are on the Electoral List for 1930 at 71 Queen Street, Ashfield, Sydney, NSW.    Florence is not there, so Frederick could well be a widower, and Margaret May is employed in "Home Duties".

Frederick James Campion travelled back to Sydney having visited England for the Coronation (my father met his uncle at that time) departing on 14th August 1937 on board the "Ormonde" of the Orient Line.  He travelled alone and is listed as a "Wholesale Jeweller".  The address he stayed at when in England was: c/o Cook family, Berkeley Street, London W.  I haven't found a record of his passage from Australia to England, only that return trip.

Please tell me the website where you learned he married Florence Bettington.



 


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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 10:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Alex and Jan!

Your comments have added to my knowledge of the wider family tree.  I had NO IDEA that Frederick James had married again!  Researching family history is a hobby without end!

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CAMPION family
« on: Tuesday 27 October 09 18:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Alex and Jan

I have joined Rootschat about an hour ago and saw your request for help - which is dated in 2007.

The members of the Campion family you list are my forbears.  It's not clear to me what you want to know, but I can tell you almost anything you ask - and tell you where you've made a couple of mistakes!  Eliza Frances is my great grandmother (she died in 1946).  I'm familiar with the lives of all her siblings and their children, etc.

Eliza's husband, Daniel Chillistone was my great grandfather, and my maiden name was Chillistone.  Eliza and Daniel Chillistone were staying with William Joseph Campion at 41 Caird Street, during the 1891 Census, with their girls, Ethel & Edith.  Also living in the house was Thomas Benjamin (he was a Carpenter and then became a builder employing others.  He moved out to Essex and married a girl with the surname Lovell, I think.   I can tell you about the whole family - just ask and I tell you what you need to know.

By the way, William Joseph Campion was widowed at the time of the 1891 Census.  His wife, Mary Ann died at Caird Street in 1888 of a weak heart.  Her maiden name was GRAY, not the name you stated. There were 7 surviving children of the family.

Frederick James did go to Australia, but in 1898, not the date you stated.  He went on medical advice because he had TB.  He came back to England briefly to see the Coronation and by then had become a successful whole sale jeweller.  He married an Australian woman and had a son and daughter.  My 89 year old father remembers him on his trip back to England.

Lauren000ful
 

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