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Europe / Re: Marriage/Death record from Hong Kong
« on: Monday 16 November 09 03:20 GMT (UK)  »
My parents were married in Hong Kong or Kowloon (they were living there) in 1953.
I contacted the Dutch consulate who forwarded my email to the relevant document centre. They advised me that they had the details and it would cost Australian $180 which I think is rather expensive. No information forthcoming unless you pay for it.

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Europe / Re: Dutch Huguenot/Walloon Society
« on: Tuesday 10 November 09 09:35 GMT (UK)  »
Most of the Walloon info is at Leiden University, The Netherlands.
In the special collections.

There are a few Walloon church websites:

www.waalsekerk-amsterdam.nl

www.waalsekerkarnhem.nl

www.eglisewallonnedelft.nl

www.waalsekerkgroningen.nl

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Europe / Re: Family Varkevisser
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 04:48 GMT (UK)  »
Forgot something:

Only about one-third of the mothers of illegitimate children filed paternity suits, because either they didn't know who the father was or realised that the suit would fail.

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Europe / Re: Family Varkevisser
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 04:44 GMT (UK)  »
 ;D
Found out some interesting stuff re: my last post.
From an article:
Burden or Opportunity: Illegitimate births in the Netherlands and Taiwan
by Hill Gates, Jan Kok, Sping Wang.
Its all just sketchy notes I took.

In the 19th century the MINORITY of first-born children were conceived after the wedding. Although illegitimacy ratios for the Netherlands are much lower than those
of other European countries.
The records are from Dutch civil registries; a random sample between 1812-1922.
KWEESTEN: A system of sexual rights of adolescents before an official engagement.
Children of adulterous relationships could never be recognised.
There was voluntary recognition of an illegitimate child by the father; adoption by marriage partner; or applying for 'Royal letters of legitimation' granted after an inquest by the Supreme Court of the Netherlands.
In 1809 French Civil Law was adopted and traditional paternity suits (fathers to pay child support) were abolished. This law was rescinded after 1911.
The Dutch state enabled marriages but could also prohibit them: bigamy, incest, marrying sister-in-law, disapproval of parents, inability to procure necessary documents, or when a prospective groom was serving in the military.
The average age of a woman bearing her first child was 24 years. This is due to the fact that men were not allowed to marry until they were economically independent.
In the 19th century only about one-third of illegitimates were legitimated by the marriage of parents.
Prenuptial pregnancies were most common in Protestant areas.
Infant mortality was very high for illegitimate children. Netherland's charity was reserved for the 'deserving poor' and mothers of illegitimate children got no financial support or/and driven from their homes; so, infanticide was not uncommon.
Of course, we are only interested in those that survived  ;D


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Europe / Re: Family Varkevisser
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 02:52 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know if there was any superstition involving registering the first born in the family in the 19th Century Holland?
And, if the woman was pregnant before she got married is there a possibility that the birth of the child wasn't registered.
The reason I ask this is that I've found the right Varkevisser line but my grandfather is the only one not mentioned.

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Europe / Re: Family Varkevisser
« on: Thursday 29 October 09 02:49 GMT (UK)  »
 :-[ They came through! Hurrah.

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Europe / Family Varkevisser
« on: Wednesday 28 October 09 11:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I was lucky enough to get some help from a lady at KITLV who found the name of my great grandfather and mother. Only their names.
She also found my grandparent's wedding date and some other details. Wonderful.
But, my grandfather was born in Nieuwe-Amstel which is now Amstelveen. So I went to their archives and they directed me to the Amsterdam archives and there are some records for Varkevisser but I cannot access them until I log in. I've tried to register several times and have also sent some emails. Nothing works.
Anyone got any ideas on this?

On the bright side a lovely woman from Dortmund, Germany sent me the details of my great-grandparents.

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Europe / Re: Germany
« on: Saturday 24 October 09 09:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your welcome and thank you also for moving my post to the right place.
Yes I was feeling a little guilty that I posted without reading the whole forum choices first. Was rather tired from spending too much time in one go trying to find something.
I will definately write that email!

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Europe / Re: Germany
« on: Saturday 24 October 09 08:27 BST (UK)  »
Well, the past few hours have yielded little.
The language is too difficult again.
The best site was http://gedbas.genealogy.net/index.jsp

The main problem is that my grandmother's maiden name is Freund which means the same as Friend.


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