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Messages - Janethepain

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I have never had much 'mixing' of my sides, in all the ancestry investigations done over the best part of 20 years, and that despite all sides coming from Ireland. However a very obvious 'glitch'* I have noticed is that when checking new matches, I am aware of a pattern, with Maternal matches having joint matches with me which are marked paternal, and vice versa.

*I don't really think that this is a glitch, but rather an aspect of trying to categorise matches, which in all intents and purposes have so very little in common with you/yourself!

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Hi,
Thank you for your opinion!  I will make a decision about how to deal with this load of small joint matches, once I see if they are permanent! Hopefully quite soon!!

Jane

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I'm looking at this from a different angle.  I too have now been seeing joint matches down to 6cm ( I marked them not to be deleted maybe 6 years ago?).

I have not been able to spend as much time on Ancestry (the app and the hobby too), for about a year, as my Dad died (nearly 99), and I am his executor (of his will), and because finally and fortuitously, at nearly 70 I have become a grand mother for the first time!  So I don't have much spare time.

Any way, I look after 3 accounts, my own, my Dad's and my maternal cousin's.  I keep waking up realising I have not checked my matches for 3 or 4 weeks, I will spend the best part of a week checking through all the new ones for each account, and then leave it for another 3 weeks and repeat!

Or at least I did, but now with all these extra un-viewed matches showing on the vast majority of new matches, I feel like I am drowning in 'quick checks'! 

These extra matches are of 2 (ultimately one) sources, the first are the under 20cm matches you didn't see, for matches you have already checked, in my case those that went live at the same time or after my account went live. Secondly, the under 20 cm matches of matches I didn't check, because,they went live before I did, so never appeared on the new matches list.

There is a third group as well, that is the over 20cM matches from before I went live, but these would have appeared on my original match list, and I have been through them with a fine toothed comb many a time!

What do others think? I know it depends on how many matches you have, and therefore how feasible it is to check every single one, but for me, being nearly 100% Irish/southwest Scottish, due to emigration to Scotland from Ireland from 1800 on, and one or two from before, I have great Scottish records to use, and many many emigres, from Ireland, and onward from Scotland, who went to all corners of this world, but mainly to the USA, where DNA testing is much more commom than here.

So I have lots and lots of matches already to look into, even before this flood of small matches appeared. I kind of think that the release of these matches may actually be permanent.

Anyway, my point seems to be that the vast majority of these under 20cM matches, and most are u 10 cM or under, only have shared matches of the same cM-age, therefore with no indication of which part of my tree they come from, except from Mother/Father sides. Even if the occasional joint match shows it has a 'family group' match to one of my lines, there is no real evidence that it is through that family line that they match me, it could be another line entirely.

It would be lovely to hear how others feel/see this quandary of mine. I would love to be convinced it is worthwhile continuing, though exactly where I would fit it in, I don't know.

Jane

PS If you think this is bad, you should see my emails!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Update
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 21:49 BST (UK)  »
Very disappointed, no change in my ethnicity estimate, or my cousin on my mum's side's estimate either.  Dad's 97% Irish/3% Scottish has become 94%/6%!

Of course I'm not really disappointed, I am assuming that they have got the distinguishing of differences between Irish and Scottish as accurate as it is going to be for a while, which is why my 79% Irish/21% Scottish has not changed. My cousin's maternal side sort of matches mine, with her estimate reflecting 46% Irish and 4% Scottish, obviously a lot less Scottish than I am (proportionally), that's sibling differences for you!  Her Father is completely different being from the very southeasterly corner of Poland, just over the border from Lviv/Lvov in Ukraine, from him she is 45% Eastern Europe & Russia, with 5% Baltic.   That hasn't changed either!

Out of interest, and this is not new with this current update, my cousins communities are amazingly accurate for where her Dad grew up, picking out the 2 county towns, between which he was born in a tiny village.  I have been impressed by this, especially as you might not imagine that many in Poland would be being tested or becoming part of the necessary reference groups there, either!

On one hand you would imagine that such a part of 'back of beyond' rural eastern Poland might have had a comparatively stable population, with few moving about and away to complicate matters, if it wasn't for the fact that my uncle and all of the young men living there were ordered to run for their lives when the Nazi's approached their world in late 1939.  And of course, there are the  'unpleasant' things that happened during and after the war, when the Soviet block took control.  So much for a potentially stable population!


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Update
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 17:23 BST (UK)  »
On the upside, the DNA Story page still calls it a September update,so within the next 4 days then. I live in hope!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Update
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 17:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Gadget, & William, thanks - will have a look at the DNA story page! Life has it's moments, and this is one for me! ;) But, hey, it is not too bad.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Ancestry Update
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 16:30 BST (UK)  »
It seems like 3 weeks ago , at least, that there was talk, and Ancestry notifications of Ancestry DNA upgrade coming soon, which most seem to have assumed was regarding an upgrade to ethnicity estimates ( I think, I am currently very busy caring for my 97 year old Dad, and my only genealogy work done in the last 6 months has been checking my matches, and skimming this site/ facebook groups in case I have missed something important!). I didnt see any messages on my ancestry account on the odd times I went on.  Have I missed something? I do now have a paid ancestry account, though not using it much at the moment!  My Ancestry/ethnicity estimates are still July 2022. The only change I have seen recently, is that new matches are coming through with maternal/paternal, and I assume occasionally both or possibly some still undetermined, but I got the impression that this happened before the notification.  Can anyone update me?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Worldwide Subscription
« on: Wednesday 02 August 23 17:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Sandra, that seems to have worked!  I really appreciate your help there.

Janexx

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Ancestry Worldwide Subscription
« on: Wednesday 02 August 23 12:43 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know if Ancestry UK offers this subscription at reduced price at any specific times of the year? I have been waiting since late last year, hoping for such an offer, and missed the only one I have seen, due to holidays, in May this year!

I am considering taking it out for a year, as i am now retired, so i can investigate more fully my Irish origin ancestors whe went to all parts of the new world in the 1800's! And of course, non irish ancestors too!

Thanks
Jane

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