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I read it in a history book.

Thanks Forfarian  The couple you mention (William and Jean Irvine) are not my ancestors because that William was a labourer and mine was a schoolmaster (there were not many labourers emigrating from Ireland until they were needed for the iron works and coal mines later in the century).


Also the children's names don't match up I have:

Jane Irwin b 1826
Olivia Mary Smith Irwin b.1833
Sussannah b. 1836
William Erskine Irwin b. 1839 (We don't know what happened to him as he was not in the 1841 Census)
Cecilia Irvine b. 1841 (It says in the Church Register her parents were George Irvine and Jane Erskine but they were living at the same address as in the 1841 Census -Quay Lane No. 7 Paisley
Cecilia was my g.g.grandmother and she is definately a sister to the others as I dna match with descendants of Jane Irwin and Olivia Irwin .

Olivia,Sussannah and William were baptised by the Episcopal Church in Greenock and Cecilia by the Holy Trinity Episcopal Church Paisley.
The original Registers are still at these Churches.
It is possible that William was sent back to Ireland as a relative descended from Jane whose branch moved back from Australia and stayed there went to a family event there as a child in the 1940s but could not remember details.
Jane,Sussannah and Cecilia all emigrated to Australia in the 1850s and Olivia married a Thomas Bald and moved around Scotland and England. Jane's husband William Leonard was an Iron Works manager and they went back with their two youngest children so he could work in Coatbridge. Only their son Henry stayed and had a family there. In the 1851 Census Jane was living at Dundyvan near Coatbridge supporting her two younger siblings as a teacher and dressmaker. Her father had died at Coatbridge but we don't know what year b/w. 1841 and 1851.

Yes I should order the 1855 certificate for Mary Erskine b. 1821 even though her descendant is convinced by dna matches and records that he has the right parents. If  Mary's father is dead though it might not mention his profession.

Hi Michelle27 and Jodi Aileena,

Sorry that I have not got back to you sooner but I have not used the email address linked with Roots Chat for some time.

Despite about 60 relatives of Eliza Chambers matching me at Ancestry dna I still can't confirm if the William Chambers mentioned here was my ancestor. The matches in common are set so high that I keep seeing only the fourth cousins I already know about or can place. A best estimate of Eliza's birth is 1835. Not only there were convicts in the district then but  farm labourers recruited from England working at the Stations.

If either of you wanted to dna test there are specials on at ftdna and Ancestry. There are at least 11 of us Chambers/Dorman at ftdna and the matches are set lower so I can see who 5-7th. cousin matches match through. It does not have the huge nos. tested like Ancestry but it is cheaper and I can easier see who distant matches  match through.

If you did test on Ancestry we could send each other an invitation to view the other person's matches. It is easier than asking did you match this or that person. Ancestry has upped security but I used to be able to sign in to relatives sites to check for myself if they gave me their user name and password. Ancestry does have a good new feature though - it splits matches into each parents side without testing the parents. Sometimes they can't tell and deem a match unassigned or both sides (that only happened to me once and my parents lived in totally different areas and had different surnames in their trees).

JodiA. - the only information I have re Eliza's mother is that there was an Eliza issued a blanket in that area around the time her daughter was born. If that were true there would have been an Eliza or Elizabeth in the direct line right down to my great aunt born in the 1900s. The tribe in the area was Ngunawal? I have an Ancestry match who has NSW Aboriginals in her tree but she has not got  back to me yet to tell me if any of my family match her and she seems too far back to be a match in common.

Let me know if you test so I can look out for you and tell you who are Chambers related.

Cheers, Linda Mackie

To Ann Baker,
Could you please search your Monumental Inscriptions book for my ancestors William Irwin/Irvine b.Ireland,school teacher and his wife Jane Irwin/Irvine(nee Erskine) b.Scotland and their son Oliver?.They were living in Paisley in 1841 but disappeared by the 1851 Census leaving the other children,Jane,Susanna and Cecilia(my g.g.grandmother).

Regards,

Linda