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David,

Thanks also for the Cummings info, everything helps in trying to piece together the story.  :)

Cathy

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To answer David's questions: I don't have a marriage date for William Cummings and Ann Oates. Just that she was born about 1760 in the Isle of Mann and that their son James John was christened there in 1788. William and Ann arrived in Sydney on the ship "Queen" in 1791, but there is no record of their child on board.


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Ann Cummings (nee Boyton) drowned at Port Dalrymple.

I think I can also clear up the dates on the Tassie site... They refer to an event and tie it in with the family details at the time. The three older Cummings children were all Baptised in 1810 by the Rev Knopwood, so all have that date as the children of Cpt John And Ann Cummings (nee Boyton).

Phillip was christened in 1832, and by that time I think Captain John had remarried an Elizabeth.


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Hi,

I think they are the same person. Phillip would have been the 3 year old boy and Mary Ann Ellinor (Ellen) was 11. They were both with Ann in the cart when it toppled into the South Esk river.

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Yes Ann who died (By drowning) July 1820 is Capt John Jnr's wife. John Snr died in Hobart 1825.

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There are 2 Ann Cummings both married to John Cummings and both died in 1820? I only know that the article I just posted was the Ann married to Captain Cummings as it gives her date of death.....

As to which couple employed the McNally's?

I haven't ever come across a second Ann Cummings with 2 children, though this Ann only had 2 of her children with her when she drowned, but had 4 in total.

Cathy

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Hi,

have still been following all the posts here, it has become a bit addictive, especially when the odd reference to the Cummings family gets thrown in, but have  become interested in your Catherine as well!

I can confirm that Captain John's brother William also married an Ann who died in 1811.  Also the 1819 muster of Land Holders at Port Dalrymple shows that John Cummings had 200 acres and had a wife and three children. It lists the children as George aged 14, James aged 12 and Ellen aged 10.
No mention of Phillip who was born in 1818- but I have Phillip's marriage certificate in which he names John Cummings and Ann Boyton as his parents.

I am still waiting on my distant cousin who has a lot of information about the Cummings family in Australia from 1800 onwards, as soon as I hear I will post anything that may help.

Found a newspaper article in the Sydney Gazette 1817 stating that John Cummings, by an early opportunity, was returning to VDL with Henry Rio his servant.

Something I did find confusing was another newspaper item in 1820 about Ann Cummings just after her death:

George Town  10th August, 1820 public notice –
Whereas Lieutenant SKELTON  of His majesty’s 46th Regiment, did by his Power of Attorney, and duly executed, bearing Date the 29th Day of April, 1818,  nominate and appoint Mrs. Ann Cummings his true and lawful Attorney, for him and in his Name and in his Behalf, and at the same time put into her charge 800 Head of Sheep, and a Number of Horned Cattle, the Property of the said Lieutenant Skelton.

Whereas said Power of Attorney contained a clause authorizing and empowering said Ann Cummings to nominate, constitute and appoint any Person she might think proper to act for him, the said Lieut. Skelton, in the Care and Management of said 800 Sheep and said Horned Cattle

Whereas in Pursuance and by Virtue of said Clause, the said Ann Cumming did, under her Hand and Seal, bearing Date the 5th of April, 1819, nominate constitute, and appoint me, JACOB MOUNTGARRETT, of Port Dalrymple aforesaid, Surgeon, a just and lawful Attorney, in the premises, for and on Behalf of the said Lieut. Skelton, concerning 800 Head of Sheep and said Horned Cattle.

And whereas the said Ann Cummings suddenly met her Death, without revoking said last mentioned Power of Attorney.

Now this is to caution the Public in general against bargaining dealing, or bartering for the Whole or any Part of said 800 Head of Sheep or Horned Cattle, with any Person or Persons whatever, as the same are the sole and bona-fide Property of the said Lieut. Skelton; and any Person or Persons found doing so, after this Notice, will be prosecuted as the Law directs JACOB MOUNTGARRETT.

Agent for the said

Lieutenant SKILTON

Not sure how this fits in with any separation from her husband?

Cathy


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Thanks again David, I haven't found the notice of Ann absconding and would love to see it. I probably wrote the previous post the wrong way- the entry about John Cummings and Elizabeth was separate to the newspaper items - I found it in the Archives office of Tasmania search portal - the colonial family links database on that site has this entry and it shows Phillip as their child which has confused me.

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Thanks for that last bit of info David. I have also printed out the report from the Newgate calendar that you directed me to, I found it very interesting and it has inspired me to do some further research. I have been going through old newspapers on line and found several interesting articles about both Cpt and Ann Cummings, also an interesting entry about Capt Cummings and wife Elizabeth? in 1832. I have started corresponding with a distant cousin, descendant from Captain John's eldest son, she has been writing a story about the Cummings' early years in Tas and has a lot of info. She is in the process of writing it up to send to me, if there is anything at all mentioning any of the names you have been looking for, I will post it here.

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