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thankyou simon for your help much appreciated

the 1944   mr e gannon was my grandad ,

 now im thinking and nave  just explained what you got for me to my mum

 he as was stationed at fulwood barracks and must have rented 29 gorst st  and then my  great grandmother lily skelhorn went there to live with him and my nan

my mum thought the other way round he went to live there with lily 

my mum   was born  preston 1942  until she was 4yrs  so this means alot to know a bit more .

thankyou simon

maybe the number 29 came later when the beerhouse was shut down ,

all i know is they lived in a 3 storey house on the corner of gorst street and used it to be a beer house

any maps or pictures would be great
thankyou

A possible birth for Edward:-

Dec 1886
Edward Gannon
Liverpool 8b 62

Like Ambly, I think is odd that in all the records we've posted today the middle name of James hasn't once appeared  and if the census details are correct for your family Edward has a younger brother called James.

You've got loads to work with now.

Best of luck

Luzzu

thankyou all 
you have really helped me on this i will order certificate .
.also my mistake on the james being middle name it was only my grandfather that was edward james gannon and the james and edward was a name going through the gannon family sorry if i confused you all

There are a couple of possibilities for Edward's birth, but this looks like the only one for Catherine:

Births Jun 1892   
SIDDELL   Catherine       
Liverpool 8b 112

This is her family on the 1901 census:

RG13/3417 18 28 - 23 Peach St, Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Head - 53 - Tailor - Manchester
Mary SIDDEL - Wife - 46 - Tailoress - Ireland
Mary SIDDEL - Dau - 16 - Domestic - Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Son - 14 - Message Boy - Liverpool
Martha SIDDEL - Dau - 11 - Liverpool
Cathrine SIDDEL - Dau - 8 - Liverpool
Margaret SIDDEL - Dau - 7 - Liverpool
Joseph SIDDEL - Son - 4 - Liverpool
Daniel ROURKE - Boarder - 24 - Tailor - Liverpool

thanks this is the right one for catherine

To start you off, this is the marriage:-

Name: Edward Gannon
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Siddell
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1013

You can do a free search for the births and marriages of their sons by going to www.freebmd.org.uk

I can't post the details on here because they may still be living but I think the maiden name you are unsure of is Hollingworth.



Do you know the names of Edward James parents.  There is an Edward Gannon born about 1887 in Liverpool on both 1891 and 1901 census and the parents are recorded as James and Lucy.  If you think this sounds right I will post the details.

Luzzu

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 thanks luzzu it is a good possibilty that is is james and lucy

Quote from: AMBLY on Sunday 04 October 09 13:31 BST (UK)

Hi

The Edward GANNON who married Catherine SIDDELL in 1914, has a WW1 Army Pension record:

Attested for Service:  4 Jul 1917: Edward GANNON age 24 & 8 mths, married.
Address: 3 Cross St, Liverpool,
Occupation: Baker
Corps: A.S.C Batl. (Baker), Reg. Nr: 358962
4' 11" tall
Next Of Kin: Catherine GANNON (wife) of 3 Cross Street, Liverpool
Particulars of Marriage:
Catherine SIDDELL (spinster) married 26 Sep 1914, West Derby
Children: (boy EJ as per FreeBMD) born 25 March 1915

His Birth date was  given at one point in the record as:  as 4 Sep 1892.

He was discharged (quite honourably)  as Medically unfit to continue in Miitary Service.

Noting on FreeBMD he and Catherine had a 2nd child's birth registered Mar Qtr 1917 before he attested in Jul 1917, yet only the child born 1915 is accounted for on the form at both  attestation and discharge time.  A further check of the BMD's shows the 2nd son appears to have died shortly after he was born.

The stated dob  (1892) and age in 1917, is a couple of years out on the date you have for your Edward, though.

Cheers
AMBLY

thanks ambly
the address are correct onthis also the dates you have given for grandfathers  dob is correct  also there was mention of catherine having a child that died in between edward and john but unure whether was a girl or boy and when he died