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Montgomeryshire / Re: looking for family of Richard Davies b 1852/3 Llangadfan
« on: Monday 21 May 12 16:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks cennydd
I have been to Llangadfan last month and so found where the original Llety Medw was (and the house next door Dolypebyll) and also the site of Glan y Morfa which as you rightly point out, was known as Llety. Nothing remains now as the school is there. Also went to the church yard and found the graves of all the children who died of the scarlet fever in the 1840s

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Montgomeryshire / Re: looking for family of Richard Davies b 1852/3 Llangadfan
« on: Sunday 19 September 10 19:18 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I am still here. Have been busy getting my head round the Miles/Lloyd-Davies ancestors thanks to people on this forum - many thanks, you know who you are! It meant a mental journey round the Worcester area then a trek over to Llangadfan and then Anglesey.
So now to the Youngmans and Suffolk! Here's what info I have already which may be inaccurate so any clarification would be welcome.

My paternal great grandfather was David (Lloyd) Davies who married Adelaide Youngman. born Bentley. Suffolk. Her daughter Laura Youngman was born about 1871 and died Cheltenham 1971, she was my dad's great aunt Laura, single and lived to be 100. There was also a William Walter Youngman b 1870ish may have also been a child of Adelaide and brother of Laura but not sure

David and Adelaide lived in Cheltenham and had Edward (Lloyd) Davies b 1886(my grandfather), Dorothy (1888died young)and Margaret1882.
 John Fitt Youngman aka Davies also features in the family of David and Adelaide b Cheltenham1878/9ish  - not sure whether he was a son or cousin or other random relative.
He married a Tewkesbury lass called Ellen around 1897 and they lived in Cheltenham and had two sons John Edward or Edward John b 1898ish and Frederick John b 1900ish.
John E lived in Southsea and married Ethel Peach? and they had a son John and daughter Joy b 1930. That's where my Youngman descendants according to my father's memory, peters out....

In terms of the ancestors: Adelaide had 3 sisters Susannah, Hannah and Annie.
Their father was John Fitt Youngman b 1821.
John Fitt Youngman senior's father was Benjamin Youngman b about 1796 Walsham Suffolk from a family of Suffolk millers dating back to Saxon East Anglia.

I'd love to have concrete info on the Youngmans though! :)

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Montgomeryshire / Re: looking for family of Richard Davies b 1852/3 Llangadfan
« on: Monday 05 October 09 21:41 BST (UK)  »
Thank you that is so helpful.
I asked dad about his father's older brother John F Davies. He was John Fitt Youngman, Adelaide Ellen's son by a former relationship but brought up as a Davies. Adelaide also had a daughter, Laura Youngman who was in service at the time of that census. My dad's aunty Laura was born in 1871 and died in Cheltenham aged 100. She remained a spinster, was in service all her life and is buried next to Edward Lloyd-Davies, her half brother and my grandfather, in Cheltenham.
Many thanks for inspiring me. I am now intrigued about the 1881 census - Edward and Margred Davies'
grandson Edward born in Manchester!
And who was aunty Maggie and aunty Polly's dad I wonder?

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Montgomeryshire / looking for family of Richard Davies b 1852/3 Llangadfan
« on: Sunday 04 October 09 01:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello I hope you can help.
I am researching my dad's family tree and having a lot of difficulty on the paternal side. His surname is Lloyd-Davies. How it evolved from Davies to Lloyd-Davies in three generations is a mystery which I am trying to unravel.
I have a copy of a Welsh bible with 'Richard Davies Glanmorfa Llangadfan July 25 1873 aged 20' written on the flyleaf. It has been in the family for years.
I think he was my great grand-father's brother.
This is all I know of my family from my dad (now aged 80):-
His grandfather was David L Davies born about 1849 in Llangadfan. He married Adelaide Ellen Youngman a Suffolk miller's lass, goodness knows where they met, but from the late 1870s the family was living in Cheltenham where he worked as a tailor. 
His son was Edward Lloyd Davies, born in Cheltenham in 1886.
My dad knows nothing about David L Davies other than he had a brother, the aforementioned Richard.
There were two daughters whose father was ?Richard? or another brother? - these were Edward L-D's cousins although as a child I called them great-aunts.
Margaret Davies or Lloyd Davies (aunty Maggie) born about 1891 lived in the hamlet of Minllyn near Mallwyd near Aberangell. She was a spinster and provided lodgings for the church minister.
The other sister was Mary (aunty Polly). She was born in the 1890s and married Tom Rees who was a slate miner at Corris near Machynlleth. They lived at a house called Bryn Massarn in Aberangell and had no children. They are both buried in the church yard in Aberangell.

I would be really appreciative of any help in working out which is 'my' David Davies!
As my grandfather Edward Lloyd-Davies was the only son of David Davies, my own father, as the only son of Edward, is the last of his line. It would be good to know if there are any Davies blood relatives still around.


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