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Hi Alice.

Fred and Margaret Ann were my great grandparents.  The children of Fred and Margaret were William, Fred, Herbert, Brenda, James and Alicia.  Alicia (1894-1994) was my grandmother. 

I am still puzzled who you are researching for. Could this be Ronald Frederick Cooke?

As far as the Irish connection is concerned I agree with your first post about James Cassidy and Rose Ann but I doubt we would be able to find earlier records in Cavan.  My mother vaguely recalls the maiden name of her great grandmother. She thinks it was pronounced like  “Maccuely” as in “queue”.  Records from that era could have shown any spelling that sounded similar (e.g. McCuley)

I have explored the Cooke history back to 1753 with some uncertainty, but it looks like their roots were south of Manchester, in the Whaley Bridge, Taxal, Fernilee area and the name Ellis or Elias Cook seems to recur through several generations before Fred's father, James.

The Canadian descendents of Fred and Margaret are very well recorded by “Nos Racines”.  If you have not visited their web site you will find it has a section for Spiritwood and Norbury.  Let me know if you need more details. I can give you the hypertext links in a personal mail via RootsChat and, in any case, I guess we need to migrate from these Cavan pages as we are moving off topic a little.

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Hi Gavvyn.

Thanks for your information. I had a look at my collection of data from a few years ago but found nothing that links my findings with your Cassidys. As you have probably found, many Cassidys left Ireland and went to the Manchester area in the second half of the 19th century and they had common names.

My Cassidy ancestors were probably from Kilnaleck, Cavan. 
Rosanna (or Rose Ann) and James came over about 1864 with their children, William, Joseph, John, James, Edward, Alicia and Maragaret Ann. Edward was only a baby at the time.
 
In the 1871 Census the family lived in 12 Vauxhall St. Manchester. In the 1881 Census they lived at 46 Mill St, Bradford (central Manchester) and Edward age 17 is recorded as a Clerk in Oil Works.
I believe he married Mary E Fawcett in 1886 and in 1891 lived in the Ashton/Audenshaw/Droylesdon area of Manchester.

My own tree passes down the Margaret Ann line, so I don't have any other details of Edward.

Good luck in your searches.

Tracker2

Thanks Heywood. 

That is the family for sure.  I had single name extracts for some of them in the 1871 census but now you show the whole family it all slots into place.  A bonus is that I see another member, Alicia.

My grandmother was a daughter of Margaret and she was also called Alicia.  I must have missed this detail on the first pass a few years ago.

So the original problem of the Irish roots still remains. I will press a few buttons with my mother now all this data is available.

Tracker2

Hi CaroleW.

I think James and Rose Ann had a son John born in Manchester in 1859. My mother recalls Margaret having a brother John. There are two possibilities in the 1861 census, both in Manchester St George.   It did occur to me that the whole family may not have left Ireland at the same time.

Tracker2