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Thank you very much to both of you for your really helpful suggestions. I will post anything substantive that I discover.

Best wishes,

Jane

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My very ordinary Brummie 2xGreat Grandmother's older half sister, Mary Spender MOLESWORTH (b Birmingham 1810), married William SAVAGE, an Innkeeper from Stratford on Avon. They had a family of 8, and most of the girls married into Circus families (despite there being no history of this in the family). They were particularly linked with the GINNETTs and SANGERs, two famous 19th Century Circus-owning and Equestrian families, and the LLOYDs, who were Gymnasts. Two of the girls became Equestrians themselves.

Mary Ann, the youngest daughter (b Stratford Oct-Dec 1849) married Henry Cowper HOPKINS in St Anne's Cathedral, Belfast on 17 July 1870. Henry, an Irishman, worked as a Circus Agent, Advance Man and Manager, for GINNETT's Circus, Batty's Circus and Powell and Clark's. They had 3 children, but tragically, Henry died in Cork in June 1876.

In 1881, Mary Ann was working as an Equestrian for GINNETT's Circus, at Trinity Marsh Circus Tents, Woolwich. The GINNETT in question was her nephew, Jean Pierre Claude Frederick GINNETT, who later married her own oldest daughter, Emily Mary.

After 1881, Mary Ann disappeared without trace.

It has been tricky, tracing the family, because inevitably they moved around all the time, and travelled regularly to Ireland. I found quite a lot of marriages there (largely Protestant ones despite the GINNETT's French origins), and a lot of the children were born there. I found the 1901 and 1911 Irish Censuses a great help when they appeared. I have even found traces of the family in Europe and, the LLOYDs especially, in Australia, New Zealand and the USA. But I can find no trace of Mary Ann. Did she remarry? Did she die abroad?

I would be really grateful for any hints or help anyone can give me on this.
They were a remarkable family, and I hate loose ends!

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Saltley Reformatory School
« on: Thursday 03 January 13 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Dusty:

Thank you SO much, this is just amazingly full and informative. And it is quite clearly my lad.

What is heartening, given that the regime at Saltley was apparently remarkably modern and "humanist", is that John Henry turned out pretty well, though his life was hard. His family moved north to Nottinghamshire after his release, and he seems to have worked all his life in an Iron Foundry in the Stapleford area. He married in 1904 but lost his wife after only 4 years (and I think they also lost 2 children) but he remarried an older lady in 1910, and lived until his early 70s in 1948. He even left a will and a small amount of money.

Thank you again, very much.

Jane

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Saltley Reformatory School
« on: Monday 31 December 12 13:58 GMT (UK)  »
I have also just discovered a relative in the 1891 Census in Saltley Reformatory. His name was John Henry ABLEY, and he was born in New Invention, Wolverhampton in late 1874. In 1891, his parents, Edward (a Coal Miner) and Emily ABLEY lived in Willenhall.

I would be very grateful for any information available from the records if that is possible. In particular, I would love to know his offence, how long he lived in the School, and whether he had any previous offences.

Many thanks,

Jane

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