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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Sunday 01 August 10 00:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,
I've been missing for a while owing to 'real time' family issues - hopefully now back onto the searching again.  It's been a while since I was researching my German Great Grand Father, so I need to get myself back up to speed with all of the jigsaw peices again!
Great reading this thread though - others seem to have had some super luck, so fingers crossed.
Bongo Ali

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Thursday 15 October 09 23:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi John,

I'm reassured that you struggled with The NA website - I couldn't get it to work for me either.  It's so frustrating.
I'll be extremely interested to know the results you receive from their search (and scarily what they've charged you!).
I've just recently sent off a search request to The Red Cross in Geneva (for any internment records they may have for my GGF).  That's not cheap either, but the way I look at it, if they have any information from his internment, what I have to pay to get it will be nothing compared to the price he and his family paid over the years he was locked away.

Ali


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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Wednesday 14 October 09 23:04 BST (UK)  »
Dear Histres,
Thanks again for your help - I will try to find out if there is any additional information at the Church where Henry married (as there is no information of his actual place of birth on the marriage certificate I have).

Your English is fabulous - my German is non-existant beyond what I can remember from school, which is very little!

Thanks,
Ali

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Wednesday 14 October 09 00:22 BST (UK)  »
Dear Histres,

Thank you so much for that information - I appreciate any help I can get and your knowledge has certainly pointed me in a direction I otherwise would have found difficult if not impossible to find.
Do you know if there's a contact for me to write to (as per your advice to John re the community archive).
I'm guessing you're in Germany because of your advice?
Protestant, Jewish, Jedi or Vulcan ...I don't mind as long as I can find him!

Again, many thanks,
Ali

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Tuesday 13 October 09 00:56 BST (UK)  »
I know, a butcher called 'cutts'.....  honestly!

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Sunday 11 October 09 02:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi John,

No problem at all sending Henry's info - 2 heads must be better than one in the mammoth trawl that is finding your family tree, especially when it's as elusive as ours is turning out to be!!
I honestly have no idea if my Henry anglicised his name - don't know if Cutts is the anglicised version (perhaps Kutz originally??) -absolutely no clue! All of the documentation I've managed to find up to now (1896 is when he first appears in England onwards) he is referred to as Cutts.
Just for the record, me being up at 3am is not usual - just come in from a Hospice fundraising doo and I'll pay the price tomorrow (or later today to be accurate!)

Alison

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
That's great - hope I have some similar luck re mine! 
Just a thought, because he was working for the Co-Op, I wonder if, because they were such a big, established employer, if they have any archived records they could share with you ? Perhaps worth a try?

Alison

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« on: Friday 09 October 09 21:34 BST (UK)  »
Excellent !  That one cartoon illustrated to my young son just how/why the changes were made!
On a more serious and darker note - a link to (I think) the Quakers' humanitarian involvement to wives and families of interned civilians.  Makes the cartoon all the more understandible.


http://www.manxnotebook.com/fulltext/sh1920/ch07.htm

Re the anti-german fervour - I'm sure that I've also read somewhere on this site, the story about a mob, who had been heavily influenced by the press of the day, who surrounded a pub demanding that the 2 germans lodging there were turfed out, 'enemy in our midst' type of situation.  Turned out the 2 chaps were country yokels from Bristol and their rather thick accents had been mistaken!

And we think the 'Daily Mail' type of journalism and scaremongering is new......

Continued good luck everyone.

Alison



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Europe / Re: Looking for possible route from East Prussia to Middlesbrough c.1890
« on: Friday 09 October 09 00:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Hugh,

I'm searching for my GGF (poss German, Prussian or Russian!), who I believe arrived at a NE port and was a pork butcher.  I've had no luck on the searches using the passenger lists on the UK Ancestry website.

However, tonight I chanced using the German equivalent Ancestry website (www.ancestry.de)  by just typing in the surname of my GGF.

Unbelievably, I got a result, which shows a boat leaving Hamburg and its route is to go to West Hartlepool, going onto Liverpool, then onto New York. It shows the boat's name, age of passenger, date of arrival etc; and if you pay to click onto the actual document, and if you can decipher the horrendous handwriting, there's other info too.  It could be my GGF (if he's changed his first name - all other details tally)

To double check, I opened a simultaneous web window and searched for the person on the Ancestry UK website, using the additional info from the German site (age, date of arrival, name of ship etc), and then the UK website also found him.

You mightn't find your relative the same way, but at least it shows boats went from Hamberg direct to Hartlepool, even if it was just a pit-stop.

Good Luck,
Alison

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