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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Sinclair
« on: Monday 08 October 12 06:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ricky,
Yes I remember you colin,michelle and gary came and stayed with my dad and doris when they lived in valkyrie road at westcliff-on-sea essex. I went and stayed with my dad just before you. You was very young at the time. If you liked you can get me on *, i have a hell of alot on the bongartz family and some pics. And letters from grandma. And uncle charlie the eldest of the family i lived with for 20yrs, and he told me and the family that i am the dead spit image of grandma and when he first saw me  he said cool blimey mum s come home. And Aunty Katherline is one nasty vicious pregnant dog, don't ever try and get any info about te family, cos she will abuse if you try and ask her anything, and she called our grandma a whore. I said to Christina she has some flaimin nerve when her so called father never gave grandma any money to feed the children nothing even when grandma died of cancer of the cervix and she would have been extreme  extreme pain. And then when just before grandma died Bongartz took his partner down to see her just a few days before she died and he never even went and got his children he just let them go to the orphange and it was in Kent called Orpington. Unle charlie first born changed his surname to weedon  his mums maiden name to did uncle bernard. I came over last january and collected uncle johns ashes and went up to grandmas grave and scattered them on her grave cos i promised him i would take him home to be with his mum and we said the Lords prayer as we scattered them and it was beautiful. Please get in touch with me so i can email you stuff what i got. Uncle charlie's real name was Carl Henry Bongartz and that Charlie in Aussie was the image of uncle charlie right down to his long sideburns same sort of build. If You can give me your house number i can ring you cos i get over seas calls $2 for half hour. Look forward to hearing from you, take care.

                                      Alison (Ali)xxxxxx




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London and Middlesex / Re: Heinrich Bongartz
« on: Friday 28 October 11 09:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Thanks for your information. I do know that Heinrich,Johanna,Carl (Karl),Christine and their grandmother, left germany and arrived in england in 1890. And the father Heinrich was there in 1901 on the cencors but not 1911 because it says that Johanna and Christine were at hampstead and on the 1911 censurs its got Johanna head and christine. Carl was married to my grandmother in 1910 at croydon, so they were'nt with them in 1911. But there Heinrich's name was on Carls marriage certificate, but i wonder what happened to the grandmother.
I have their Alien file from the home office which was released to the national archives, and the grandmothers name was not mentioned on the paperes only the grandmother came with them. And i do know that a applicatiuon was made for a passport for carl, i do not know if they came by ship and train or what. Many thanks Alison

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London and Middlesex / Re: Heinrich Bongartz
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 10:04 BST (UK)  »
No your cool julie,the only word i really hate is the F word and the c word. Apparently i am the image of my grandma and i am so proud of her bless her. Ali

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London and Middlesex / Re: Heinrich Bongartz
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 09:59 BST (UK)  »
For sure. do you have a number home one that is. As mobiles  are dearer, or if you don't i can call ur mobile. alison

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London and Middlesex / Re: Heinrich Bongartz
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 09:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Julie,
Yes your grandfather was Carl Henry Bongartz, but Heinrich was his father and his sister was Christine his mother was Johanna but do not know what happened to his father Heinrich, he was not with them in 1911 when Johanna and Christine was at hampstead and the census states that Johanna was head of the family. But in 1910 of february Grace who is my grandmother got married, and they had a son Carl Henry Bongartz in the August and he changed his name later on to Charles Henry Weedon he took his mothers maiden name because it was not a done thing back in those days to have a german name. If you want to have a chat my numberDELETEDor i can call you. I have such alot to tell you. And your grandmother is Violet May Jay when single and they married  5 months after my grandmother died of cancer of the cervix. Look forward to chatting with you. Have been talking to suzzane and Geoff.
Take care Alison

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Sinclair
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 18:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi Suzanne,
How are you, I'm up on the Redcliffe Peninsula Brisbane. I have a picture of your dad is it Charles, he is very uncanny to my uncle charlie henry weedon (which his real name is Carl Henry Bongartz ) he was your dads fathers first born son. Your dads sister Christina is a very dear lady and we are very very close and i ring her often and when i was in england in january - february for two weeks and i went to see her. If you contact me and give me your email address i will send you some pics of the family. Take care Alison

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Australia / John COWARD of roma Queensland
« on: Tuesday 20 September 11 13:14 BST (UK)  »
Am looking for information and the family of one John Coward who was from Roma in Queensland Australia , and this is the information i was given:-

Name: John Coward died about 1968 May - June (I am his biological daughter) My mother (*) was 6 weeks pregnant with me, when he passed and he was 30 yrs old.

His occupation was a Truck driver
education:- MATRICULATION and University 1 year. Of Music of arts, could possibly played trumpet (Brass instrument)

Height :- 6ft 4 ins
Weight :- 12 stone 7 pounds
Studied music at a conservatorium.
Hair:-  Fair
Eyes :- Blue
Skin :- Fair

Was told also he tought braile and was artistic.
John might have had a sister.

 (I was adopted).

He was burried at ROMA.

Apparently he had a gentle soul and the local church needed painting and someone donated the paint and he painted it for nothing.

So if anyone can help me locate my father's family or siblings, I would be most grateful. Many thanks.

                            Yours faithfully
                       

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Sinclair
« on: Tuesday 09 August 11 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi tanya,
Woooopie i am so thrilled to meet you my email address is (*) And if you give me your home number i will ring you from here in brisbane australia  cos i get it alot cheaper it only costs me $2 for half a hour and we can get a fair bit of gas bagging in that time and yes i would so love to have grandmas letters. I was in england in january and i went and picked up uncle john's ashes and took him back to grandma to her grave and Father richards and i scattered his ashes on her grave. And according to uncle charlie Uncle bernards eldest brother i am the dead spit image of grandma grace. The first thing he said when he saw me was cor blimey mums come home, and i lived with him for 20 years. my house number is (*) and mobile number is (*) Oh Tanya i am so excited i had my 57th birthday last thursday, I have a 24 year old daughter and i am not married, never have been. I have one photo of uncle bernard which was uncle charlies and that was with him in his uniform. Did you know Gwennie was my aunt joans best friend and best friend for donkeys years.  Can't wait to hear and talk to you . Take care and again many many thanks for getting in youch with me, i am trying to find out what happend to thomas sinclair and if he went back up to scotland and died up there or if he stayed down in england, i do know the family kicked him out because he used to come home and bash grandma up, and after the other boarder left george sanders left Aunty Aggie she sent her son walter round and live with grandma till she died. I don't forget that swine bongartz letting his children go to a orphange and had kids by this other woman and he used to drive around in a damelier and had his own hair dressing school also. i have a small pic of him if you like, uncle charlie is like him abit he used to have a moustache. Take care alisonxxxxxxxxx

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Sinclair
« on: Sunday 07 November 10 08:20 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Trish
My grandma's maiden name was Grace Eva Weedon born 1892 married a Carl Henry Bongartz in 1910 in the befruary and they had a son  the same name as his father and was born in august of the same year. But later on when he was eighteen changed it to charles henry weedon. He took his mothers maiden name of weedon as it would'nt do to have a german name back then. Believe in 1916 he was interned in the first world war because they had another little boy who passed away in a workhouse infirmarey from bronchial pneumonia he was only 2yrs old .  Then they had my uncle Bernard he was born in 1916, his father was interned and did'nt come out till  1920. Took off with this other woman, my grandma had to take in boarders to help pay for the rent and food. And being Catholic she couldn't divorce her husband , and apparently Sinclair used to be a drinker and come home and hit my grandma . They never married the family kicked him out and he was gone my 1925 and the other board george sanders still lived there till 1926 and grandmas nephew Walter Harris stayed with her till she died in 1934 she was 41. Bongartz lived with this other lady and had 3 children by her and in ther 1940's i believe they were haveing twins but were still born.  But every time they had a argument he would go back to my grandma and thats how the other three children of his with my grandma were born Doug, Kathleen, and Alexander. Uncle Alex was only about 4 and half when grandma died and he let his kids go to a ophanage. What kind of a man does that. So grandma's married name was Bongartz but on the electrol role it has her down as Sinclair. Many thanks Alison

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