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My 2nd great grandmother,  Ellen Flynn Orphaned by the Irish Famine, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 10th September 1849.

Monday September 10th, 1849:- the barque Elgin, 518 tons, Burns, Master, from Liverpool and Plymouth.
Passengers: William Hewer, surgeon-superintendent in the cabin and the following emigrants and 221 female orphans [193] . . . . from Irish poor-houses in the steerage. . . . The orphan girls were from institutions at Clonmel (15), Fermoy (30), Killarney (35), Lismore (25) and Skibbereen (85)

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/elgin1849.shtml

Cheers, Gav

At least the dates of the photo cleared up who it is'nt in my tree.

Thanks for your reply, Bilge, Sylvia and Jim.

on the ship was Catherine father Patrick CREAMER his Parents John and Esther (Etty) two brothers, John, Thomas and a widow sister Ann with her two children (CONNOR)

Special thanks to all you help.

Gavin

All are amazing, thank you - I been four year trying to find Catherine descendants and you nut it out in a couple of days.  

I'm off to bed to mandywh, hope to find more.

Good night, Gav

South Australian Register Wednesday 22 October 1862

POLICE COURTS.
Adelaide: Tuesday, October 21. Before Mr. S. Beddome, P.M.

Maintenance. - Patrick Creamer appeared to show cause why he should not contribute to the maintenance of his illegitimate female child. Annie Keeley, the mother, attended with her child, and was recognised by Mr. Bee, the Relieving Officer of the Destitute Board. Evidence was taken as to the means of subsistence of the respective parties, and His Worship ordered a   weekly payment of 5s. by the defendant, with costs 9s. Defendant, who was lately married, wished to take the child, but strong maternal feelings would not yield to such an arrangement.


Groom: Patrick CREAMER
Bride: Rebecca NUGENT
Date: 1862-08-18
Groom Age: 23
Groom's Father: John CREAMER
Bride Age: 22
Bride's Father: William NUGENT
Place: St Patricks Church Adelaide

 :)I will probably lay claims that Catherine is the first child of William John, not John William WILMSHURST and Mary Annie Keeley. I will keep looking to try and fully verify the matter.

Catherine and George KNOTT had 8 Children, their third son Robert, born 22 Jun 1883 at Wirrabara South Australia; Mary Annie Keeley died at Wirrabara. Wirrabara is a very small town, the nucleus of the WILMSHURST family that arrived in SA settle at Thebarton, Adelaide.

I have done a check on William and Mary children, their daughters had a child at Wirrabara and the register entry was both WILMSHURST and WILMOTT, this happened a couple times with the  children of William and Mary have confused the surname, like Catherine an George in the SA birth registered WILMSHURST and WILMOTT for her children.

Only 7 birth registered to William and Mary Annie, but there was eight children

This pager report below, thanks so much to Debra who found it in the Register, the  article below in the Register showed that there was 2 children, one child left with friends, the births register  have only one at that time, the pager report says they separated, and because Annie was pregnant with William Amos I guess got back together.

South Australian Register Saturday 18 February 1865

W. J. Wilmshurst was charged as having deserted his wife, Annie Wilmshurst, without leaving her any means of support. Complainant stated that she was married to defendant about three years ago at the Catholic Chapel, Wallaroo. Her husband did not turn her out, but the bailiff entered for rent and left her no inducement to remain. She would have become houseless and homeless but for the kindness of some friends at Thebarton. Defendant called the assistant bailiff and several other witnesses to prove the intemperate habits of his wife and her utter neglect as to his meals. The Court ordered a payment of 10s a week towards the maintenance of the wife and one child, the other being cared for by defendant's friends.

Cheers, gav