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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Tuesday 22 September 09 12:08 BST (UK)  »
hI Red Kite,

Yes Thomas Watts was at LLamihangel Place until his death in 1924. He and Alice initially farmed at Dyffryn Bach, Pendoylan. His parents farmed there before moving to Ty Draw. They were in LLamihangel by 1901 census. My g.grandmother was working for them, helping Alice with some of her 13 offspring at this date. She married Alice's brother Thomas Morgan a few years later. My grandmother spent alot of holidays at LLamihangel. It is a fairytale looking place and you can now stay there as an up market B&B. It was said to be haunted and she said you cyll ould hear rats in the old walls. She and her cousins loved it because the house was so big the adults could not hear them chatting and coming in late!

Edward Watts farmed at St-Y-Nill and Castle Farm, St.George-super Ely. He and Rachel married5-4-1850 at Pentyrch. Her father farmed at Castell-y-mynach, Creigiau and I think they lived there briefly with her family.    Castle farm then passed on to eDWARD'S  youngest son Thomas. This information is from the research of Thomas Llewellyn who lived at Pentyrch and was the above Thomas Watts grandson so should be right.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Monday 21 September 09 15:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Red kite
The other Watts / Morgan wedding of Thomas watts/Alice morgan lead to a third. Thomas watts was my grandfathers uncle and Alice Morgan was my grandmothers aunt and my grandparents met through their joint first cousins and married. Therefore both morgans and watts are my family.

Ty Uchaf belonged to the MoRGANS as tenant farmers from at least 1788 when my ancestors Thomas & Catherine Morgan had 50 acres. It then passed to Christopher Morgan and his second wife Margaret the parents of your Thomas Morgan. Christopher retired from farming in his 80s to become a miller and lived to 94 on it. My ancestor was his youngest son JoHN fathered when  Christopher was 65. The Morgans all live to great  ages and John died two months before he was 100.  He also farmed in LLantrithyd and was brother in law to  my ancestor David Watts and Charlotte at Ty Draw.

.  Their son William Watts was my great grandfather and had Ty Draw from 1912 to his death in 1930s. Edward Watts was the last at TY Uchaf about 1945.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 15:56 BST (UK)  »
hi red kite,
saw your interest in watts family. Ty dRAW is still a working Farm and is in Llantriythd but your branch never lived there . Rachel jones was a young widow when she married Edward Watts and they farmed Castle farm St.Georges super Ely and had six children. Your John & Elizabeth were farming Ty Uchaf by 1881 taking over from his childless uncle & aunt.

Edward's brother David had Ty Draw. then his  eldest unmarried son David and in 1912 his youngest son William took over. He was my great grandfather.

We therefore both descend from Thomas Watts and Margaret Thomas. I can go back to their parents Edward and Margaret who farmed Bwlch Gwyn, Ystradowen. More info if you want.

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