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Hey Dave,
My cousin William and I have our tree up on Ancestry (Rudge/Biggs-Reda/Gross) or I have just the (Rudge) part going on there also. I also have the (Rudge) tree up on the FamilySearch.org website. I am not sure if you can see those trees if you have an account on those sites - maybe? Otherwise, I can throw you a hard copy of our tree via email if you like. Just PM me if you like.
Scott.

Wow Dave,
That is quite convoluted, and very interesting. I will have to dig deeper into my notes and check this out. I haven't fiddled with the family tree in a few years, so it is about time I get back on it. The connection between Holbury and Oldbury is pretty solid - a most likely scenario. The two Samuel Rudge's in the area and the boundary changes between counties makes things interesting. Additionally, with my family working canals, family movement has been a challenge. I am back into the 1700s now and records are getting sketchy. Hopefully during my break, some additional records have made it to the web.

Thanks again Dave for taking the time to share this info. I think you are the first distant distant distant relative to chime in on this section of my family tree. If you didn't catch it earlier in this thread, I am descended from Mary's younger brother John b.1831.

I don't think I have chased down any of the female marriages from this group of kids yet. So who did Mary b.1817 end up marrying?

Scott.

Kiboko,
I was just surfing familysearch.org, and if you search the IGI database, there are a couple of user submissions for Edward Rudge and Mary Holloway's marriage. According to the user submission, it looks like Edward was born around 1807, and Mary was born around 1811. It also says Edward was born in Cradley near Halesowen. The best match I have come across for Edward (c. 13 Jun 1813 at All Saints, West Bromwich) is a marriage to a Harriet Griffin/Griffith (c. 9 Mar 1817 at All Saints, West Bromwich) on 22 Jun 1834 at Aston Juxta, BHam. Happy hunting!
Scott.

Kiboko,
As far as I know, asthma has not been an issue in our line. So you have Edward Rudge, c.1813 at All Saints, West Bromwich in your line? Edwards little brother John is where my line comes in. We just might be distantly related. Tricky step is that there are two Edward Rudges christened in 1813 at All Saints. One c. 13 June and one c. 15 August. My Edward Rudge c. 13 June, has parents Samuel Rudge, c. 5 Jun 1789 and Mary Lighham. The transcription for Mary's last name is probably not right - and it is hard to make out the original. I have copies of the Baptism register entries for Edward, Thomas, Mary, Samuel, Joseph, Ann, John, and Hannah from West Bromwich parish. I also have a copy of the St. Philip's church register entry for Samuel Rudge and Mary's marriage. Do you have Samuel and Mary as parents for your Edward? Do you have William Rudge and Catherine Paine as Edwards grandparents? That's as far back as I have been able to go - I have not been able to make a reliable connection to William's parents.

If you have made it to Paddingham (Pattingham?) then you are doing good. They say that most surnames come from our ancestors vocations or locations. The hamlet of Rudge is just a mile southwest of Pattingham - and I am guessing that is where our surname originated. There are a lot of very early Rudges in the Pattingham records. I am also guessing the Evesham branch of Rudges came from this area too. Their tree goes back to John De Rugge (John of Rudge) who lived in Seysdon (Seisdon) during Edward II reign - 1307 to 1327. Seisdon is just 2 miles southeast of the hamlet of Rudge.

EDIT: Just realized that you meant that you are now in Paddington - oops. I was hoping you had traced your tree back to Pattingham - that is where a lot of early Rudges show up in the older records.

Scott.

Thanks Andy! That one goes under - you learn something new every day. Scott.