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Cumberland Completed Lookups / Re: Can't find any of these in BMD ?
« on: Monday 12 November 07 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you,

Have I missed something again?

Why still next door to Howfield?

I have not come across any connection with Howfield that I know of, nor is it mentioned in any of these posts?

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Cumberland Completed Lookups / Re: Can't find any of these in BMD ?
« on: Monday 12 November 07 17:30 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, Geoff, you are right, I am presuming too much.

I found Henry, Margaret, Martha Jnr, and Thomas (together with their parents) in the 1861 census with the surname of Bell, at a farm called Hacen Bags, Petteril Crooks, and have assumed they were 'always' called Bell.

Maybe Robert Bell took pity on Martha and 'took in' all her kids when they married and he was only actually the natural father of William.born in 1862?

I think I will try the Parish Registers at Carlisle to see if any father is mentioned for the early children of Martha, and then maybe try some birth certs., but make sure there is a father mentioned before I buy.

I feel that you have at least put me on the right track.

Once again, many thanks.

Gerry

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Cumberland Completed Lookups / Re: Can't find any of these in BMD ?
« on: Monday 12 November 07 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Firstly, Many thanks for all these replies.

The William Bell in the BMD index for 1862 June Qtr 10b 44, turned out to be the son of a single woman called Sarah Bell of Baileystack Lane, Rickengate. So that is a 'wrong 'un'.

Well done to GeoffE and the others who found the Richardson marriage.

That marriage for 1861 would seem to be a strong possibility, given the other census information you have passed on.  I was looking far too early in the records, it seems they married after being together for a long while.

On my last trip to the Carlisle Record Office, just on an off chance I decided to look for all Marthas born about 1824 in the Haughton adn the Orton Parish Records.

I found Martha Richardson, christened on Boxing Day 1824, daughter of Thomas and Margaret Richardson (nee Twentyman), of Dalston. Of course I had no idea at that time if this was a possibility or not.

I had never found the marriage that Geoff has found.

The two people on the marriage cert. I bought were Robert Bell, Draper of Bread St and Martha Beswick, Spinster of Church Street. These are not right, my Bell's were farmers or at least farm workers.

Barbara, how did you get the Richardson connection, what made you seek Richardsons on the census?

It seems that Martha has been breeding a bit 'afore she got married, maybe they were living ‘in tally’ as me Mam used to call it.

My Robert Bell's father was William Bell born Wetherall Carlisle circa 1797 and married Jane Dunn in Carlisle on 13.12.1817.

The Census records for 1841 and 1851 seem to be on the right track for Martha’s family.

I need to start working out why the delayed marriage, and whether the children are actually on the BMD as Richardson. I’ll also have a dig about on the IGI and see if I can come up with any matches.

Once again, many thanks, I now have something more to work on.

Regards,

Gerry

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Cumberland Completed Lookups / Completed Can't find any of these in BMD ?
« on: Saturday 10 November 07 19:24 GMT (UK)  »
I am about demented trying to find these people in the BMD lists.

They are the children of Robert BELL and his wife Martha.

What I am after is Martha's maiden name.

This information is gleaned from Census Records:

Margaret Bell b 1842 in Carlisle
Thomas Bell b 1844 Newby Carlisle
Henry Bell b1849 Newby Carlisle
Martha Bell b1856 Newby Carlisle

I found the baptism record for this next one in the Carlisle Record Office but mothers name only given as Martha.

William Bell,christened 8.6.1862 at Wreay by Carlisle, parents Robert Bell and Martha of Southwaite Farm

I can not find any records of a marriage for Robert Bell and a Martha (I bought the record for Carlisle v25 p46 Mar 1846 and it is not them, wrong occupations and wrong area).

Why on earth can I not find any of these childdren in the BMD?

Any help appreciated,

Gerry

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Durham / Re: Boarding school at Gainford Durham
« on: Monday 25 June 07 18:49 BST (UK)  »
I may be wrong but I think this is the Gainford Academy, where Stan Laurel had the early part of his education?

See here:-http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/congress/9/laurel.htm

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Durham / Re: Do you have any Brain ancestors from Ferry Hill area??
« on: Tuesday 29 May 07 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello Tees,

There is only the one public cemetery, run by the Town Council.

They will do a burial search but there is a cost, see their website here:-

http://www.ferryhill.gov.uk/services/duncombe_cemetery.htm

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Durham / Re: Do you have any Brain ancestors from Ferry Hill area??
« on: Tuesday 22 May 07 18:52 BST (UK)  »
I live in Ferryhill.

There is a local newsheet that is delivered to all homes every week.

It is called The Chapter and often has 'looking for relatives' articles.

Here is the website:-

http://www.thechapter.org/



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Cumberland / Re: Looking for death of Thomas Salkeld between 1772 and 1775
« on: Tuesday 24 April 07 09:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, we will check into that.


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Durham / Re: Blackhall Mill - Which Parish?
« on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:39 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for your replies.

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