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Hi Genieflower
I see you have changed your Look up Heading which is a good thing but you still may be going along the wrong track.
I have looked up the 1861 Census for Tynwain (Yscirfawr Ward of Merthyr Cynog Parish at Brecon Library - the copy was not very good but what I could make of it is as follows:-
Thomas Davies 30 Born Llanfechan; Celina M. 27 born Llandefalle; Jane dau 4 b.Merthyr Cynog; William 2 and Emily 1 month (both born in Merthyr Cynog
If this is the Selina you are researching it may not be the same Celina Williams of Nantygwwreiddyn I have been telling you about.
You may find it interesting to check the Lookup on RootsChat.com under the heading "Davies family 1951" nomdeplume Cardiff  which is the 2nd item on page 2 of the Lookups.
I would also take up the offer someone has made to look up the census returns for 1851; 1861 & 1871 for Tynwain as this may help you to see if you are pursuing the right line but  take care that it is Tynwain Yscrifawr and not Tynwain Duffryn Honddu (both in M C Parish) The other day I tried to look up the 1901 Census for Baileyhelig ( as Thomas Davies may have been living there in 1901) but I didn't have any success. Baileyhelig is in the Parish ? of Brecon St. David's Without
All for
Iago

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lewis/Bowcott family
« on: Friday 18 September 09 20:53 BST (UK)  »
Hello Genieflower
Thanks for your message - yes I do know the area quite well but am not all that proficient in the computer world and am not able to advise you but I do believe it is possible to send emails direct to each other and am quite willing to co-operate but I don't know the procedures for doing it.

Using nomdeplumes is essential to keep our privacy but in a recent exchange of correspondence I was conversing with someone I felt sure was a male and it turned out to be a female  and that same person thought I was a female - how wrong can one be - so if we do get to the stage where we are sending messages to each other I am letting you know that I am male -Iago does not give much of a clue  to gender.
Went to Brecon Library today  but was disappointed in my look ups
Speak to you again
Best Wishes
Iago

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lewis/Bowcott family
« on: Thursday 17 September 09 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Genieflower
Pleased that you found the information interesting and I think I have some more that you will enjoy. But first can I suggest you submit a "look up Request" to RootChat.com with a different heading as at present our messages are getting mixed up with the Lewis/Bowcott family which has no connections whatsoever.
I have a strong inclination that Selina Davies nee Williams was the daughter of John Williams of Nantygwreiddyn a farm adjoining Tynwain and would suggest a Look up Request such as "Williams Family Nantygwreiddyn Farm Pontfaen Brecon" or Davies Family Tynwain Pontfaen Brecon  but I think you will get more info on the Williams Family.
You can still use your nomdeplume of Genieflower - let me know if you submit a new Look up request and I will send you some more info - I don't think it costs anything. At present the general public will only relate to Lewis / Bowcott and not your request.
Hope I haven't confused things
Best Wishes
Iago

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lewis/Bowcott family
« on: Wednesday 16 September 09 20:37 BST (UK)  »
Hello Genieflower

The details ,of the gravestone was taken from a list of Memorial Inscriptions published by Gareth Jones in 1996 for Bethel Chapel Llandefaelog fach Parish  (also known as Bethel Chapel, Lower Chapel (It is adjacent to the B4520 about ˝  mile north of Pwllgloyw and is only about 10 yards outside of Merthyr Cynog Parish Boundary. There is not a Baptist chapel in  Merthyr Cynog Parish although there are two Congregational and two Methodist Chapels in the Parish as well as two Churches and it would appear from the information you have given that they were  Baptists and that would be the reason for them  being buried at  Bethel. (Tynwain is not so very far from  Bethel – in fact it is in the next valley).
I don’t know how much you know about Tynwain – but a word of warning – there are two Tynwains or Tynwauns in M C Parishes (Also two Tynwerns). M C is divided into 4 wards for census purposes; Duffryn Honddu Upper (Upper Chapel) and Duffryn Honddu Lower; Yscirfechan and Yscirfawr – The Tynwain you are interested in is in the Yscirfawr Ward. (According to a little book I have entitled Welsh Place names in Breconshire Tyn-y-waun means house in the meadow and Tyn-y-wern the house in the alders or marsh – now I am rambling on.
In a booklet  entitled “An outline history of Bethel Baptist Church“ under the heading Trustees re Purchase of Land  to build Bethel Chapel  there is a John Williams Tynymaen Merthyr Cynog farmer
The description of the gravestone is given as – Fawn sandstone “coffin lid” on legs:-
To the memory of Selina wife of Thomas Davies of Tynwayn , in the Parish of Merthyr Cynog who died Feb 19th 1865 aged 32 years.
(followed by a religious verse in welsh). Also in loving memory of the said Thomas  Davies who died Oct. 21st. 1925 aged 95 years.
There are a number of gravestones in the vicinity relating to the Williams family who I think would be Selina’s relations but more of that in  the future if you are interested.
I hope to look up the census details in the local library tomorrow and with a bit of luck may be able to give you some more information.
All for now
Best Wishes
Iago

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lewis/Bowcott family
« on: Saturday 12 September 09 22:37 BST (UK)  »
I have tonight seen your message to Oliviv - I have gone on to Broadband and have changed my email address and my new name is now Iago.
The information I gave in 2007 was in reply to an enquiry from "Davies family 1951" and I see it is still listed on RootsChat.
If you think I can give you any information please do not hesitate to ask.

Best Wishes
Iago

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