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Tipperary / Re: Sadleirs in Tipperary
« on: Sunday 01 January 12 03:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Marion. Although I started this chat some years ago I am afraid I have been a bad boy and have rarely checked back. However, by mere coincidence I saw your enquiry today  New Years Day here in NZ !!!
The connection that you are after is as follows
in 1665/6/7  a John Sadler lived in Ballyryan, Sollohodmore just north of Tipperary town. he is a shadowy figure who seems to be have a descendant of the famous Sir Ralph Sadleir but that is another story.
John had four sons.. John,Richard,Clement and Samuel. The first descent you are interested in goes as follows :
Clement ( Ballintemple)
  his son was Clement William ( Shrone Hill)
  his son was William ( Shrone Hill )
  his son was Clement ( Shrone hill ) married an RC heiress Joanna Scully
  so descendants are RC.
  he had four sons including John the banker and swindler and James who also fiddled the books !!

The second descent you are interested in starts with the fourth son Samuel above ( his estate was Shanballymore)
  his son was Richard ( Scalliheen)
  his son was Richard ( Tipperary Town)
  his son was Richard  ( Holycross & Scalaheen Hse ) He was interesting because he married his second cousin Grace Sadleir, a descendant of the Clement of Ballintemple ( above) !!!
   his son was James ( Brookville)
   his son  was John ( b.Brookville, emigrated to Victoria Australia and was the policeman in charge at Ned Kelly's arrest
    This John was my great grandfather

So there you have it. Do not hesitate to ask for more information about this connection if you wish
Happy New Year    Richard

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Tipperary / Re: Sadleirs in Tipperary
« on: Wednesday 19 January 11 18:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jack. The "West Australian" marriage entry is most interesting. I have Blanche in my files and knew she was in Australia about 1925-1927. I also knew, though my fathers comments many years ago that we were connected to the Wilmotts. But I didnt know of this marriage. Thankyou for the post. :D

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Tipperary / Re: Sadleirs in Tipperary
« on: Sunday 02 January 11 01:27 GMT (UK)  »
To RichardAS, in Australia, re Clements & Richard.
I think I can provide the information you wish but it is a bit too complicated to do on Rootschat. If you will email me at (*) I will get it back to you. Apologies for not replying sooner, I rarely check this site.
Richard

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Tipperary / Re: Sadleirs in Tipperary
« on: Tuesday 05 January 10 04:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Patricia,
I regret that I cannot help you with your enquiry about Mary. I have looked through all my family records,and checked the Sadleir entry in
Burkes Irish Family Records( 1976) with no success. I have a number of Marys recorded but none fit the dates.
I also have no family records connecting to Glenough.
Although I suspect the family came from only two sources in the  16th Century they were originally Protestant but some branches became Roman Catholic along the way. As was unfortunately common in Ireland this meant that they completely separated from each other. Almost all my records and sources are Protestant and it it is highly probable that your Mary was RC.
There must have been a huge exodus from Ireland in the early 1850's due to the famine. My great-grandfather and two of his brothers came out to Australia in 1852, One of which also went to Tasmania. A cousin of his was already in Tasmania.

I wish you success with your further searches

Richard Sadleir

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Tipperary / Sadleirs in Tipperary
« on: Friday 11 September 09 04:55 BST (UK)  »
I have a considerable amount of information about the various branches of Sadleirs who lived in Co.Tipperary since the 1660s. From about 1750 the spelling stabilised at Sadl E I r.
Pleased to assist anyone from my records

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