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Hi Iago
Another quick response.  The 1861 for Tynwain that you looked up is correct.  Thomas and Selina (Celina) had 4 children that I am aware of.  Firstly Jennet (Born 1857) - this would be who you read as Jane - William (Born 1859) Emily (she died young, I am awaiting her death certificate) and Thomas Cynog born 4/5/1863.  I have a lot of info on him, including his obituary. He married Sarah Catherine Powell, but I  digress here, as I am trying to establish the history of Selina.
Thomas Cynog was born at Tynwain Merthy Cynog.  The Tynwain clear on his birth certificate.  It states his father as Thomas Davies, farmer, Tynwain Merthyr Cynog, and his mother Selina Magdalen Williams. 
In 1911 Thomas Davies who was born in 1831 (don't have birth date) at Llanfechan is living at Bailyhelig  Brecon, with his son, the above mentioned William. 
So, my interest at this point is really the history and family of Selina Magdalen Williams.  I am just trying to prove that the Selina aged 9 in the 1841 census 'Division of Yacrifawr (?) Parish of Merthyr Cynog (Ref HO107/1368/12) is the one who married Thomas Davies.  I am almost 100% positive that Tynwain Yscifawr is correct. 
There is nothing quite like local knowledge in sorting these things out. 
The 1925 death of Thomas Davies aged 95, is what pulled me into Rootsweb in the first instance, as it could have taken me forever to discover this information.  I have read through previous postings, and the only relevance I could find to my research was the headstones and burial place of Selina and Thomas.
Kind regards
Genieflower


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Hi Woody32

Thank you, but I have the 1841 census showing this family. 

Regards
Genieflower

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Williams Family, Nantygrreiddyn Farm, Parish Merthry Cynog
« on: Saturday 19 September 09 06:48 BST (UK)  »
I am seeking information on Selina Magdalen Williams, Born c1832.  She married Thomas Davies in 1856 and died on 19/2/1865 
I believe her parents to be John and Elizabeth Williams, and she was one of at least 10 children.
Any information on Selina or her family would be great.
Kind regards
Genieflower

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Davies/Williams
« on: Saturday 19 September 09 06:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi Iago
Bit of a blow as I have discovered I inadvertently entered the incorrect Quater on a marriage cert I am keenly awaiting, to prove the parents names.  I believe I am have been on the wrong track, and should be tracking the family of William Davies who was born c1795 in Llanvihangelfach (?) as he and his wife Jennet are probably the parents of Thomas who married Selina.  Once I know I have the correct info I will be able to post look up requests under Davies/Williams.
As the Lewis/Bowcott is no connection, I'll stop using this as a reply.
By the way, Genieflower I feel, is a good gender clue. 
Regards

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Davies/Williams
« on: Thursday 17 September 09 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Iago

Thanks for that - wasn't sure how to change to Lewis Bowcott heading!  So I'll certainly take up your suggestion with the Look-up request.  I'm pretty sure that Selina is from the family you mention, but hoping that as soon as her marriage certificate arrives, which I've ordered and expect any day, it will shed more light, and I can be more positive then in providing correct information for any look-up requests. 
You are obviously very familiar with the area, and also of how this all works, so thank you so much for that. 
I think there is also a way of connecting 'personally' by email as well, which I am happy to do along the way.
Thanks for your help
Regards
Genieflower

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Davies/Williams Family
« on: Thursday 17 September 09 02:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi Iago
Thank you for this exciting (to me) information.  Some of the Welsh names, being similar, are often difficult to work out.  I am currently awaiting the death certificate of Selina, which I hoped would supply more information.  In the 1841 Census (HO 107/1368/12) Division of Yscirfawr (which you refer to )  Parish of Merthy Cynog, it shows John Williams Farmer, aged 50 with Elizabeth aged 45, and 10 children, I assume to be theirs - the 1841 not giving away all that much -  of the 10 children, there is a Selina aged 9, and without positive proof as yet, I am working on the assumption she is the Selina who married Thomas Davies.  Only a parish register would prove this of course.  In the 1851 Census,  Parish of Merthyr Cynog (HO107/2489)  there is a Benjamin Davies farmer of 50 acres at Tygwyn, who has a 21 year old son named Thomas, and I believe this is the Thomas who married Selina Williams.  It seems quite likely that the daughter of one farmer, would marry the son of another farmer.  Do you know what they would have farmed in those days in that area?  All very interesting, trying to piece these things together.
Regards from Genieflower

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Davies Family
« on: Saturday 12 September 09 23:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Iago
Thanks for your reply.  As you see, I only joined Rootsweb when I stumbled across the Davies burial information the other day. 
I was interested to know if you had actrually seen that headstone or if the info came from another source.
I'm researching that particular Davies line - that is, Thomas Davies, b 1831 who married Selina Magdalen Williams. They had 3 children, Jennett b 1857, she married John Hope Evans a Congregational minister.  William, who married Margaret; they had 8 children, 6 still living in 1911, and Thomas Cynog, a Baptist Minister b. 1863 and died 1911.  It was interesting to note from your info from the headstone that Thomas b.1831 lived to such a ripe old age.  In 1911 he was living at Baily Helig with his son William and daughter in law Margaret.
Not yet sure how to use Rootsweb - am I rambling too much? 
Regards - Genieflower

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Breconshire Lookup Requests / Davies Family
« on: Thursday 10 September 09 07:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Oliviv
I have joined Rootsweb this minute, after accidentally coming across your posting of March 2007.  It refers to information found on a gravestone at Bethel Chapel, Llandefaelog, saying "to the memory of Selina wife of Thomas Davies, Tynwayn, the parish of Merthyr Cynog who died Feb 19th 1865 aged 32 years. Also in loving memory of the said Thomas Davies who died Oct 21st 1925 aged 95 years'
Yesterday I sent for the death certificate of the said Selina (her maiden name was Williams)
Wondering if you have a connection to this family, or answering a question for someone else.
Regards Genieflower

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