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Armed Forces / Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« on: Monday 07 September 09 10:34 BST (UK)  »
almost forgot it was the Medical Officers who were given the privilage of wearing the headress as most of the other Corps were not around then Signals was formed in 1921 from the Engineer Signal Batallion

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Armed Forces / Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« on: Monday 07 September 09 10:31 BST (UK)  »
hullo yes it was common for other Officers of other Regts and Corps to wear the embelishments of that unit if it is an old classic one the Household Brigade the MOs wear the uniform of that unit but wear a cocked hat.....the Household cavalry Medical Officers are appointed by the Silver stick and the Colonels of both Regts...after a period then granted to wear the the uniform with the RAMC badges in.....Now when I was with the Army Cadets which was the Hampshire Regt I chose to wear my JIMMY on permission from the SIGNALS oFFICER IN cHIEF...LIKE mONTY WHO WORE TWO CAP bADGES TAKE THE AIRBORNE WHO WORE THE MAROON BERET BUT KEEP THE rEGT CAP BADGES...as that unit was a classic TA unit..he wore that with pride saw a programe on him by the Prince of Wales....if you served in the Scotish Regts if you wished you could wear the headress of that Regt with you cap badge....saw the jimmy badge( Royal Signals) in many types of regt headress....lots of things are coming back of old times gone to remind the soldier of former Regts....so sad that most of the county Regts gone.....hope this helps.....see recent posts to you....
Maurice.....  (ex Royal signals...Sig to Lt. )  1961-1970 then rebadged the Royal Hampshire..1980-84 in the Cadets (staff)

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Armed Forces / Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« on: Monday 07 September 09 10:17 BST (UK)  »
Intrigued to know that photo in your box is it woodbine willy the padre who gave out ciggies to wounded troops in the front line....

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Armed Forces / Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 21:28 BST (UK)  »
no officers did wear boots but as officers had to buy kt not issued and so many were conscripted in many did not have the money or influence so yes many did wear puttees  but if not assigned to a unit the badge would have have been the coat of arms like the RSMs badge this was worn until the 60/70s as seen many in the Staff HQs especially in the Colchester Garrison as many staff were still the war time served and were not assigned to any unit. having the dres code for the Yorkshire Battlalion , and as a former officer the cap was barathea not serge for ORS. and officers from the victorian period to modern times are to have a regt tailor...who had to to follow the dress code for regts and corps.....all officers were given a book on dress codes for the day and evening includin the uniform..in my day if you could not afford the sword you went to the Adjt who issued with one the RSM usuall gave you sword drill for parades....Sandhurst is different today since the 70s, as mons finished and Sandhurst took over for all commissions. in my collection years ago had the regt officers cane with regt badge....now the household  cavalry officer have a silver topped cane as seen one at the funeral here...a Capt was carrying it in his dress service dress and others carried a regt riding crop.....yes badges were bronze  and some were black.....like the rifle regts the chaplains dept for one....for Northern Ireland in the 70s all badges were black for night patrols.....had many items in my collection including rare Celon planters uniform the badge were more than the uniform they were made of solid silver and the cap badge....the National Army musuem wanted it.....as they had no records of that unit or bades...that was an old boys club as most units were out there then....my Uncle Major Jack Barnard belong to the Burma forrest planters but went on to win the MC in Burma....
NOW IF YOU SEE MT OWN FATHER IN iNDIA AS AN OFFICER HE WAS THE MOST SCRUFFY OFFICER....
in the photographs he is wearing un orthodox uniform for the Indian Army as was the case.....as he never collected his medals I sent for them....and managed to get a cap badge of his unit in India....#
now to those photos have in my collection of old photos from the Victorian to WW1 all soldiers in a studio.. all posed.... the WW1 are the post card type ,the victorian are studio sepia type   including a large regt photo group....its the only thing I collect as it needs little space....yes had a victorian officer sword as well with bayonets of the period...but all gone now.....hate to say it but the cllection was mainly the German W2 period from SS to civillian stuff with medals knives sword etc.....used to be a civil war re-actor as well doing the shows and battles....

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Armed Forces / Re: Identify Military Uniform and date please
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 20:18 BST (UK)  »
Certainly not an officer in the regular army the puttees were worn by other ranks the officers would have worn knee high brown riding boots     too scruffy to be an RSM who wore officers tunic ...and he would have been older as most senior warrant officers of the pre war army were older long served soldiers...the badge is difficult to put to any unit.....officers badges were in black for that period..and collar badge were worn as well.....the pip if it is a pip is too high up on the shoulder s   having served in the ranks and got my pips up in the 70s....in the Army, and as a historian and former military collector, this is my subject..........the cap is not the officers srvice cap to hard and stiff the officers was a soft version with lower crown....and broader chin straps..also officers carried a cane.with a silver ball regimental patern..............warrant officers carried a pace stick which was larger than the officers cane.....cant date the period.......the uniform is ...~?????? more details please then I can help........can say further to this when soldiers had their photograph taken in a studio the ohotographer had props so the soldier coild show off to his girl friend this happened in the US civil war.....which made the looking for the mans unit and regt........difficult......have a collection of old photographs of old time uniforms of that period....in old plate on card..............sepia..........

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Scotland / Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 01:25 BST (UK)  »
Thank you old rowley,

I read this with interest because I have just found out my Ancestors (not in the list) fought at Culloden

The information I have is: "In 1745 Theophilus Hearsey (a Cumberland Squire) took up arms for Prince Charles Edward Stuart and led his family, tenants and servants into the field.
Theophilus and his son were both present at Culloden and consequently attainted and their estates confiscated. They fled the country and joined exiled court on the continent."   

It appears that when proceedings against the Jacobites were relaxed they returned to England and became London Merchants and made their fortune (wish it had lasted  :( ).

What I find really strange is they went on to become generations of high ranking military officers in the British Army based in India  ???

Crystal  :D

re- my answer  most of the hearseys enlisted as ensigns and worked their way up into the ranks....there were many men of the hearsey s who served in the army both for the East India Company then the Indian Army some went to Burma where my Grandparents lived before fleeing Burma because of the Japonese invasion, they played a big part in the Indian mutinity where A general Hearsey and hisson Capt Andrew Hearsey disarmed the mutineers  there is an Indin film "Mangel Pandy"    the hearsey family was vast as most of them married met some of them on the reurn after the Partition of India. most were in the Indian Army and the Royal Signals....BAINS LEVISTON-ALLEN and a major who I met in training in Catterick camp in 1961 a Major late of the Indian Army  my late mother nee HEARSEY  her father was a senior burmese police officer in the burma police....my own Father an Englishman was an officer in the war time Indian army,,,another name is PURDY.....I have my Grandfathers features.....as my Aunt Elsie.....

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Scotland / Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« on: Saturday 05 September 09 22:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you old rowley,

I read this with interest because I have just found out my Ancestors (not in the list) fought at Culloden

The information I have is: "In 1745 Theophilus Hearsey (a Cumberland Squire) took up arms for Prince Charles Edward Stuart and led his family, tenants and servants into the field.
Theophilus and his son were both present at Culloden and consequently attainted and their estates confiscated. They fled the country and joined exiled court on the continent."   

It appears that when proceedings against the Jacobites were relaxed they returned to England and became London Merchants and made their fortune (wish it had lasted  :( ).

What I find really strange is they went on to become generations of high ranking military officers imauricen the British Army based in India  ???

Crystal  :D

Hullo Crystal  I am a descendant from he Hearsey family, my mother who has passed on. my aunt is still alive. I have the family hhistory book which mother has passed on to me to which there is only two copies, also documents relatin to family memebers I was born in India my mother was born in India who fled Burma with the Hearsey family into India, also the Barnard family . yes they had big business as part of the India Company and were high ranking Officers some were Generals.....some where along the line are we cousins..? mothers maiden name was hearsey then O, Brien...
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