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Monaghan / Re: Dawson Grove estate workers (1850's)
« on: Monday 05 September 11 17:34 BST (UK)  »
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1850/NOV.html

November 21, 1850 Anglo-Celt, Cavan Paper:

MORE ROBBERIES AT COOTEHILL (Extract from this  longer piece as follows:

Could this refer to William -7 years before the date you give above.)

ROBBERY OF LEAD. = At an early hour on the same morning (Saturday last) a gate keeper belonging to Richard Coote, Esq., of Bellamont Forest, discovered a sweep and his wife in the act of carrying off a considerable quantity of lead which they had just stripped off the roof of the house lately occupied by Mr. Eyre Coote, J.P., adjoining the church of Cootehill (which verifies the old adage - "The nearer the church the farther from God!") and being armed with a fowling piece he (the gate keeper) arrested them both and delivered them up to the police, and they were committed by the petty sessions' magistrates, on the same day, to the gaol of this town to abide their trials at the ensuing quarter sessions of Bailieborough for the offence.



Hi Pastmagic,
It may be him but unfortunately I have no way of knowing.  I don't know what year William was born, in fact I know nothing about him before his wedding to Mary Jane McKeon in St Johns Church of Ireland church at Kilcrow on the 13th July 1852, other than his Father was a John Lee from Monaghan and at the time of the wedding both William and his Father are shown as pensioners (Military or RIC I presume but don't know for sure)

Best regards
Dave

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Cavan / Re: Photo of the Gate Lodge of Bellamont House
« on: Monday 05 September 11 16:14 BST (UK)  »
The Gate Lodge shown on that google street view is at the end of the drive of Bellmamont Forest House, as shown on the auctioneers link which pastmagic gave in your other thread.

You can see the house on the OSI map at this link  (Select the 'Ortho 2005' view for a modern overhead view)



Shane

Cheers Shane   :)  :) It looks like you got it right   8) 
As the gate lodge was originally built into the wall I assume that the estate had a wall built all around it.

Thanks again
Dave
 

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Cavan / Re: Photo of the Gate Lodge of Bellamont House
« on: Monday 05 September 11 15:35 BST (UK)  »
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Gate+Lodge+Bellamont+House&hl=en&sa=G&biw=1024&bih=571&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sout=1

should help
SYLVIA
Hi Sylvia,
Thanks for the quick reply.
Unfortunately the gate-lodge of Bellamont House isn't one of those shown, although the main house itself is.

Thanks again.
Regards
Dave  (Newtownards County Down  N.I.)

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Cavan / Re: Photo of the Gate Lodge of Bellamont House
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 22:32 BST (UK)  »
I believe this is the gate lodge of Bellamont Forest House estate on Google Street view - link

It's located at the western end of Station Rd in Cootehill.


Shane

Hi Shane,
Many thanks for your quick reply.  The only description I have of the main Gate Lodge is http://william-montgomery.com/properties/bellamont.htm
This says - "The Gate Lodge is single storey, set within the walls at the entrance to the property.  There are six rooms and an entrance hall."  That link was sent to me by Pastmagic. 

Can you please confirm that the house I have marked as Bellamont House on the photograph below actually is Bellamont House.

Thanks again
Dave (Lee)

Moderator's Note: map removed in acordance with Rootschat copyright policy

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Cavan / Photo of the Gate Lodge of Bellamont House
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 18:03 BST (UK)  »
PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP

I am looking for a photograph of the Gate Lodge at the main entrance to Bellamont House (near Cootehill County Cavan)

Many thanks
Dave  (Lee)

 

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Monaghan / Re: Dawson Grove estate workers (1850's)
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 17:54 BST (UK)  »
That is interesting! looks like he worked for the Coote's then - an eccentric lot to put it mildly!

Bellamont Forest House  has survived, though Dartry is gone.

http://william-montgomery.com/properties/bellamont.htm
This says - "The Gate Lodge is single storey, set within the walls at the entrance to the property.  There are six rooms and an entrance hall." So you could try Google maps street view to find it.

"Demense gate lodge Cootehill. " - could this mean Dawson Lodge or Bellamount? There is still the question of Bawn lodge!

I expect that as it was built by such an important architect, there will be surviving documents etc about the lodge. There is a protected structure - Gate Lodge Bellamont House, in the Co. Cavan list which might be it.

PM



Hi Pastmagic,
Thanks for the info and links etc. 
I knew of the location of Bellamont Forest but I didn't know about Bellamont house !! I just assumed the estate that William worked on was the Dartry estate. 
I tried to find a photograph of the Bellamont House gate lodge on Google images, but unfortunately no luck.  I think I'll put a post on the County Cavan site asking if anyone has a photograph of the Gate Lodge.
I will try to contact the other "Lee" researcher within the next few days.

Thanks again Pastmagic
Dave  (Lee)

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Monaghan / Re: Dawson Grove estate workers (1850's)
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi hallmark,
Thanks for the information although I have actually taken a photo of that particular headstone in the graveyard at St John's (Kilcrow) church of Ireland.  There seems to be quite a few Lee families living in the Dartry area, unfortunately I have been unable to trace any that were related to my lot.  
My Great, Great Grandfather William Lee married Mary Jane McKeon from Kilmore West in St John's Church on the 13 July 1852.  About 1867, the whole family moved North to Belfast.

Thanks again.

Dave

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Monaghan / Re: Dawson Grove estate workers (1850's)
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 17:07 BST (UK)  »
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gallery/dartrey_a_great_irish_estate_paradise_lost_11444

Has info on this estate, it changed name at some point, and is better known as the Dartry Estate.

There is a Dartry Heritage association:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dartreyheritage/

They may be of help - worth an email, anyway!

The Estate papers are in PRONI.

Google "Dartry Estate Cootehill " for link.

See also:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gchung/coyle/1861census%20Drumgoon%28cootehill%29.htm

Another researcher on Lee in Monaghan:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~leeea/EmanuellMonaghan.htm

For background info.

PM
Hi Pastmagic,
Thank you so much for the information, it is greatly appreciated. 

I found the birth of another child of William Lee.  The birth was for James Lee who was born on 13th November 1854 and the address is given as Bellamont Forest and William's occupation is given as a Gatekeeper. 

Thanks again.
Dave

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Cavan / Workers on the Dawson Grove estate (1850's)
« on: Friday 02 September 11 17:33 BST (UK)  »
Sorry I'm not sure if this post should be on the County Monaghan or County Cavan section.

I'm trying to find out if my Great, Great Grandfather William Lee was a worker on the Dawson Grove Estate in 1857.  The address on the church baptism record for one of his children is Demense gate lodge Cootehill.  Addresses for other children are Bawn Gate and Bellamont forest.  Any help or information would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

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