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The Common Room / Ellen Coffey & Thomas Henry Gandy
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 11:24 GMT (UK)  »
Here is what I have found about Thomas Henry Gandy.
The birth was registered in Sep Q 1860 of Thomas Henry Gandey at Runcorn 8a/183. 
Baptism of Thomas Henry Gandy son of George & Elizabeth Gandy was baptized on 23 September 1860 at All Saints Runcorn.
At 1861 census for Granville St Runcorn, head George Gandy 29 born Winsford Cheshire, mariner; wife Elizabeth 26 born Runcorn; daughter Mary E 4; son Thomas H 8 months all born Runcorn.
At 1871 census for 22 Princes St Runcorn; George Gandy 40, master mariner; wife Elizabeth 37; Mary E 17; Thomas H 10; Clara J 8; Frederick W 6; Ada E 3; Florance R 8 months; all born Runcorn.
At 1881 census for 22 Princes St George Gandy 48 waterman; wife Elizabeth 46; Thomas Henry 20 waterman; Clara Annie 18 domestic; Frederick William 16 unemployed; Ada Emily 13; Florence Kenwright 10; Arthur Edwin 7; Lotty Maud 16 weeks; all born Runcorn.
Married on 10 February 1890 at Swansea Parish Church Glamorgan, Thomas Henry Gandy 29 bachelor of Waterloo St, joiner son of George Gandy mariner; & Elizabeth Ann Thomas 30 spinster of Waterloo St, daughter of William Thomas deceased, farmer; witnesses Charles & Margaret Sophia Williams.
At 1891 census for Llangyfelach, Morriston, Swansea, Glamorgan, Thomas Henry Gandy 31 joiner born Runcorn; wife Elizabeth Ann 34 born Morriston; spoke Welsh & English.
Married on 15 May 1894 at St Mary's Widnes, Lancashire; Ellen Coffey 29 spinster of Pear Street, daughter of Patrick Coffey, labourer; was married after banns to Thomas Henry Gandy 33 bachelor of Pear St Widnes, waterman, father's name left blank (was he perhaps the father of Ellen’s first born, Thomas Henry?)  They were married in the Protestant church of St Mary by John Adams Curate in the presence of John Jessup & Martha Jessop; Thomas made his mark, Ellen signed.
At 1901 census for 52 James St Swansea, Glamorgan; Head Charles Williams 43 born Swansea coach builder; wife Margaret Sophia 38 shopkeeper born Swansea; (both were witnesses at the Gandy 1890 wedding); visitor Thomas Henry Gandy 40 married carpenter born Birmingham.  Also at the 1901 census for 22 Green Lane, Handsworth, Staffordshire; Elizabeth Ann Gandy, wife, married 43 born Aberystwyth Cardiganshire. She was living on her own in her own house.
At 1911 census for 13 Ty Coch Rd Sketty, Glamorgan; Thomas Henry Gandy 50, joiner, carpenter & house duties, born Runcorn; wife Elizabeth Ann 52 born Glyn Fach Cardiganshire, married 21 years no children.
Death of Elizabeth A Gandy age 67 was registered March Q 1926 at Swansea 11a/1093.
Death of Thomas Henry Gandy age 78 was registered in September Q 1938 in Swansea ref 11a/789.

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The Common Room / Ellen Coffey & Thomas Henry Gandy
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 11:20 GMT (UK)  »
In 1894 at St Mary's Widnes, Ellen Coffey 29 married Thomas Henry Gandy 33.
Below is what I have found out about the life of these two persons, and it seems that this may have been a bigamous marriage.  Ellen Coffey gave birth to six children of whom only two were still alive at the 1911 census.  This note has been posted in case the descendants of those two survivors are looking for their ancestors.
The birth of Ellen Coffey the second of Patrick & Margaret Coffey’s daughters, was registered in March Q 1858 at Dudley Staffordshire ref 6c/53, which ties in with various subsequent census returns declaring that she had been born in Tipton, Staffordshire, near Dudley.  The Coffeys were a Catholic family, but her RC baptism has not yet been found. At the 1861 census she was living on Scotland Road Liverpool age 3.  At the 1871 census she was still at home in Liverpool age 13 living at 39 Oriel Street.  At the 1881 Census for 10 Water St Runcorn, Ellen Coffey 26 unm born Runcorn, charwoman was a boarder in the house of John Smith.  Her age is clearly shown as 26.  Actually she was 23.
On December 3rd 1884, she gave birth to an illegitimate son, Thomas Henry Coffey, registered March Q 1885 ref 8a/233 & baptized fifteen months later at St Edward’s RC, on 2 March 1886, the godparents being her brother Michael then 14, and her mother Margaret.  Another illegitimate child, Sarah Anne Coffey, was born in September Q 1887, ref 8a/225.  Her baptism has not yet been found.  She died at six months, in June Q 1888 at Runcorn ref 8a/140. She may have been named in memory of Ellen’s older sister Sarah, who died in May 1888. 
Yet another illegitimate child, Mary Catherine Coffey, was born to Ellen on March 6th 1889, and baptized on July 25th 1889 by Father Johanne Baptista Gastaldi STD.  Mary Hand was the godmother.  The baptismal entry reads "Anno 1889 die 6 mensis Martii nata, et anno 1889 die 25 mensis Julii baptizata est Maria Catherina Coffey, filia Ellenae Coffey" (space for husband left blank).  Maria/Mary may have been adopted later as she was not enumerated in the 1891 census, and no death registration has been found.
At the 1891 census for Walton Prison, Liverpool; Ellen Coffee, prisoner single 27 born Tipton Staffordshire, was a labourer on Coalpit brow.
Eventually on May 5th 1894, Ellen Coffey  29 spinster of Pear Street, daughter of Patrick Coffey, labourer; was married after banns to Thomas Henry Gandy 33 bachelor of Pear St Widnes, waterman, (father's name left blank) in the Protestant church of St Mary’s at Widnes Lancashire.  They were married by John Adams Curate in the presence of John Jessup & Martha Jessop; Thomas made his mark, Ellen signed.  Was the groom perhaps the father of Ellen’s first born, Thomas Henry?  This was the first event in this Coffey family known to have taken place outside the Catholic Church. 
Ellen has not yet been found in the 1901 census. 
At the 1911 Census for 22 Wellington St Widnes; Ellen Coffey widow 48 born 1863 Tipton Staffs; had given birth to 6 children; 2 still alive, 4 dead. She looked after 3 boarders.
The death of Ellen Coffey 58 was registered in December Q 1919 at Liverpool 8b/85.
Her youngest nephew, Thomas Joseph Coffey recalled first meeting with his Aunt Nell (Ellen).  It was soon after he had left school in Widnes in 1916.  He said she was then a widow and remembered her as a ‘nice soul, plump, bonny-looking, houseproud, clean’.  She lived at (26) Wellington Street Widnes, and Tom believed that his older sister Jane stayed with them until her marriage in 1917 to William Galvin, who also had been a lodger at Ellen's home.

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Caernarvonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Powel family, Dolbenmaen
« on: Monday 16 November 15 07:17 GMT (UK)  »
The search engines are much more successful looking for Howel than ap Hywel.  They pick up what is written in the parish registers, correct or not.

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Caernarvonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Powel family, Dolbenmaen
« on: Sunday 15 November 15 23:25 GMT (UK)  »
Griffith Powel was baptized 13 Dec 1809 at Dolbenmaen. He married Jane Jones on 29 Sep 1828 at Maenclochog in Pembrokeshire.  He was buried from Rosebush 20 July 1888; she on 26 Oct 1886.  His son Howel Jones Powel was born c 1842 at Little Newcastle, Pembs and died 29 Sep 1863 at   Maenofferen in Blaenau Ffestiniog.  He married Sarah Williams (my wife's gt grandmother) on 18 Oct 1862 at St David's, Blaenau Ffestiniog.
Tell me more about your connection.
Paddy Buckley

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Gloucestershire / Re: Dennis Kenealy & Mary Burns
« on: Wednesday 07 October 15 13:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Chris
I had almost given up on that Bristol line.  Although I have lots of facts on tailor Denis Kenealy, my interest is on the Burns family, particularly Johanna (Annie) Burns 1877-1902, younger sister of your Mary Burns.  She had several children with John Stevens, who may have been my late wife's grandfather, but have not yet found the vital proof.  If you have anything on poor deaf & dumb Annie I should love to have it.
Paddy Buckley 
paddy.buckley@lineone.net

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The Common Room / Re: A marriage at St Margaret's Westminster 28 July 1768
« on: Monday 24 February 14 13:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Dawn.  I have now found the reference in FindMyPast for July 28 1768 and have looked at the original entry in the PR.  But they are not the people I am looking for and cannot reconcile their entry with the newspaper report in St James' Chronicle for July 28 1768.  It was a second marriage for Sir William East, Baronet (and MP) of Downing Street, and I doubt if he would have allowed the cleric to write down the name as Bess. His bride was reported as Miss Jackson, but other evidence has her name as Hannah, not Elizabeth.  I don't know enough about the Westminster territory and the marriage entry in FindMyPast has thrown me.  Is it possible that a marriage at the Abbey or at a private chapel at Westminster was not picked up by FindMyPast?

John Buckley

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The Common Room / Re: A marriage at St Margaret's Westminster 28 July 1768
« on: Saturday 22 February 14 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Dawn
Your eyesight is much better than mine.  I just cannot find that original entry at St Margaret's Westminster.  Where did you see it?  I failed to find it on Ancestry.com; Family Search or FindMyPast. I know the date but am looking for any additional information that might be in the PR.
Paddy

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The Common Room / A marriage at St Margaret's Westminster 28 July 1768
« on: Friday 21 February 14 23:19 GMT (UK)  »
A brief report in St James' Chronicle for 28 July 1768 reported a marriage at St Margaret's Westminster between Sir William East, Baronet of Downing Street and Miss Jackson of the same place.  I have not been able to find the original entry in the parish register via FindMyPast, Family Search or Ancestry.  Where else should I look online?
Paddy

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I have now obtained from National Archives the naval service records for Lt John Tharp Thompson who began his service under Captain William Bligh on 26 May 1795 and seems to have ended his time on 1 May 1814 on a passage to Waterford Ireland under Captain McGuire.  He was in London for his marriage to Mary Aiken on 22 December 1817 at St Dunstan Stepney.  At the top of his naval record is noted "died June 1825", but so far I have not found any record to confirm this.  No will has been found at PCC.

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