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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Tuesday 22 June 21 13:27 BST (UK)  »
My apologies that I haven't responded sooner.
Work and trying to put this into a structured form so I can explain to my Mum, what you amazing people have found for her and I.
Taking the advice given I have applied for Charles Death cert and will be applying for his war records too.
I have messaged the DNA connection via Ancestry and await a response. Michelle Bristow appears to be cousin to Mum. Via Alice Millicent her mother I think. I have no idea if Michelle is in Australia or the U.K. Edit: had the message bounced back from Ancestry saying "This User isn't accepting Messages". Mum doesn't know this as its just literally come in as I'm typing and checking What to do now?
I have put together the information from here and from Hugh at HOL as of yesterday and today.
Spent this morning at Mums, we had tears for about 15 mins. Some of joy because she knows that she had family, but immense sadness that she din't get to meet them.
I am blown away by everyone's kindness and taking time to help me out.
My faith in humanity is once restored.
I want to try and persuade Mum to come to London and just see the area her family were from.
Sadly my Mums started this search for her Dad back in the 90's. Writing to the Salvation Army whom wouldn't help because her parents were not married and she just isn't computer literate, I think she had all but given up.
May I buy any of you a drink?


 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Tuesday 15 June 21 08:07 BST (UK)  »
Hmmm!
Ok I persuaded my mum to do a Ancestry DNA test some Months ago and was disappointed that no results came through.
I thought it had got lost in the post, however a few said it could take up to 4 months for any result.
However DNA results arrived but we were not aware.
So she has 2 matches of 5% and 6%.
The 6% match turned out to be her mums sisters Grandson. He literally lives around the corner from me. He is hoping to meet up with my mum to help him with that side of the family for his research, so that's great she can help him at least.

The 5% match I could only partially see their tree, however it does contain the family names of Duff.
How these relate to Mum I'm not sure. The person whom she is connected with doesn't appear to be active to ask.
They have the following Duffs
Gideon Duff 1875 -1944
Alice Millicent Duff 1907-1966
Both seem to hale from Edmonton.
Alice dying in Victoria, Australia.
So I'm wondering how/if they are related to Grandad Duff and of course my mum.
So I really need someone who has those in a family tree in the vague hope of gleaning something useful.

Thank you all again for your patience with me.


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Monday 14 June 21 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Sandblown on Monday 14 June 21 20:50 BST (UK)
Could You by any chance, name the vicinity, where Your Grandmother was living at the time of the liaison, with Charles Duff.

Thank you for replying.
Charles was in Derby at the time of the liaison.
My Grandmother was Derby Born.
I appreciate your time in helping.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Monday 14 June 21 22:11 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Girl Guide on Monday 14 June 21 21:35 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Carl  :D

I checked to see if there were any marriages for a Charles Duff to a Jean but none came up between 1890 and 1945.  Whoever his wife was it was not Jean unless that was her second name.

As Sandblown has asked, where was your grandmother living at the time she met Charles?  Where was your mother born?



My Mother was born in Derby.
That's the issue I'm finding was his name really Charles? Mum seems to think he went by the name of Charlie? Charley?
Apparently his wife Jean was disabled and couldn't have children.. Hence the offer to take my mum on?
That's the trouble with legend and not having open honesty from the family.
Thank you for taking the time in looking for me.


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Monday 14 June 21 22:05 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your replies.
Charles met my grand mother when he was evacuated from Dunkirk.
legend has it that he spent quite a lot of time in the water awaiting rescue and this caused health problems along with his hair turning white from shock.
So he was sent to Markeaton Army Camp in Derby,East Midlands. He was sent to work in the cook house.
He was quite unable to work properly in the cookhouse and required assistance as he had very little grip. Aso the Camp Dr gave him regular injections in his feet and hands, something to do with use of gold needles? Any way I digress, once my Grandmothers pregnancy was revealed the Army called in her parents. Whom apparently said they would sort the mess out?
So we know for sure he was in Derby in March of 1944.
After  that I'm assuming he would of been medically discharged. I can't imagine he would of been able to do much after. Or maybe the Army moved him on elsewhere?
My Grandma would of been between 20-21 years old. It was said he was slightly Older.
My Grandmother was born in 1923..
So I'm not sure how much older Charles was.


 

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Family History Beginners Board / My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff
« on: Monday 14 June 21 17:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,
I am trying to find my Grandfather on my Mothers side.
I doubt he will still be living now though but I can't find anything out there.
My Mum was the result of an affair during WW2.
My Grandmother refused to allow my Mum to go live with him and saw to it that she never had contact with him. The reasoning was that he was already married and refused to divorce his wife and marry my Grandmother.
My extended family my mums aunts refused to give us any information.
Sadly all have passed away now, leaving my mum who's in her 70's without any clue to her paternal lineage. She has felt alone all her life and rejected by her mother being Granny reared.
So I'm looking for a Charles Duff, married to a lady named Jean? His occupation apparently was a bookies runner and the area he was known to of come from was Bermondsey.
The only record we know exists is from the Courts as he was charged with the crime of bastardy (fathering a child out of wedlock) and a support order granted. The local Courts refused to supply a copy of any order or information because they deemed it wasn't in the public interest.

I appreciate any help with this.
Kind Regards
Carl

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: CHORLEY families, wiveliscombe somerset
« on: Wednesday 26 August 09 12:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi Craig,
I too have the same dilema.

I am related to you in this manner  :)
 Francis Chorley was the Brother of Harriet/Herriot, Can you please advise which one married Thomas Lovebond from Nympton, Devon Marriage date is 14/6/1827?


My Dad, Arthur Montague Chorley b 1923,

his Dad Arthur montague Chorley b1893,

his Dad Arthur Montague Chorley b1870,

his Dad William paramore Chorley 15th April 1841 Exton Somereset,

his Dad Francis Chorley 12/7/1803 (Yeoman) Exton Somerset.

His Dad William/ mother Joan Collard??? or william/joan langdon??? Another Family member has the Collard connection,  have you moved further forward?

My Great Grandad and his wife Sussanah may Mort moved to Derby in the Midlands and thats how we got to Derby.

Please get in touch to discuss the above.
Best Wishes
carl chorley

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