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Westmorland Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage Lookup Please - Dalton-in-Furness
« on: Tuesday 19 January 10 13:17 GMT (UK)  »
Meeclop could be Meathop, which is the other side of the Kent estuary. I´m not able to check right now, but Milnthorpe and Meathop may have been in the same parish at some point - Beetham or Heversham.

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Westmorland Lookup Requests / Re: For Woodthorpegirl - look up please
« on: Saturday 26 September 09 18:43 BST (UK)  »
I think your Isabella Hoggarth is the one who appears in the IGI as the  daughter of Joseph and Agnes, b. August 1st 1819, christened at Windermere.

Unfortunately I don't have the baptism records for 1819, but I do have baptism records for other children of Joseph and Agnes. The dates may contain errors because my copy is hard to read, and they  seem confusing:

1816 John, son of Joseph and Agnes, Lindeth, farmer.
1817 John son of Joseph and Agnes, Lindeth, farmer, b. Feb 11th, christened November  2nd.

1826 Joseph son of Joseph and Agnes, Lindeth, farmer.

Lindeth is still there.  It was a large estate containing several farms bought by John Bolton, a Liverpool merchant who made his fortune in the slave trade and lived at Storrs which is now a hotel.  Joseph Hoggarth appears as his tenant in the 1829 land tax for Undermillbeck.

Surnames can be very local, and Hoggarth isn't really an Undermillbeck name - the Hoggarth family originally came from neighbouring Troutbeck I believe, and the painter William Hogarth was related to them.  As a tenant farmer, Joseph is likely to have moved to Undermillbeck from somewhere nearby. However, there  one or two Hoggarths appear in the 1777 window tax.

I don't have records for Staveley, but there were certainly Studholmes in Staveley - Wiiliam and Ann stick in my mind.  If I come across anything, I'll let you know.


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Westmorland Resources & Offers / Offer: Database of inhabitants, Windermere 1640-1841
« on: Saturday 26 September 09 14:34 BST (UK)  »
I have a database of virtually all the residents of Applethwaite and Undermillbeck, (modern Windermere and Bowness) with information about their families and where they lived, in 1671, and I can trace many of them through to the census of 1841. I'm currently trying to extend the database to include everything I can find from original records about the inhabitants up to that date - quite a big job!  I am willing to help anyone if I can.

Please start new topic in the look-up request board for Westmorland.

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Cork / Re: Look up birth Kelly b.1864
« on: Tuesday 15 September 09 17:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that. I was hoping for a John Kelly - there didn't seem to be many Maria Kellys born in Cork on the pilot familysearch site, so I thought I might be lucky.  I never thought of checking on the original site!

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Cork / Look up birth Kelly b.1864
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 22:24 BST (UK)  »
Is there anyone who could look up the birth of Maria Kelly b. 1864, please?
The data from the LDS is  Vol.19 p.746, Film 101041, Digital GS 4187281 Image 00198. Thanks

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Westmorland / Re: Edward Philipson (b. 1824 in Lonsleddale)
« on: Monday 24 August 09 16:40 BST (UK)  »
Did you find more about Edward Philipson? His father John, the maltster of Ulthwaite Mill, was the son of Edward b. 1763 Preston Patrick, and Margaret (Peggy) Philipson. Edward's father was William b. 1725 Cowbrow, Lyth son of John and Mary Philipson.  He  married Ann Robinson at Burton-in-Kendal in 1760. In 1777 he paid window tax at Lupton (Preston Patrick).

William's father was John Philipson of Stricklandroger who married Mary Muncaster also of Stricklandroger, at Burneside, 19.5.1723.  John may have been the son of Thomas Philipson (d.1711, Stricklandkettle) and Jennet Sawrey, and the brother of William Philipson whose descendants became bobbin manufacturers. This is because John and William are mentioned together in a quitclaim of 1724 amongst the Sawrey family papers, and the family naming system (he had an elder brother named Thomas) supports this line of descent.  John of Stricklandroger was the originator of a large Philipson family with many descendants, who can be found making queries on genealogical messageboards!

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Westmorland Completed Look up Requests / Re: Middle name Braithwaite Completed
« on: Monday 24 August 09 16:08 BST (UK)  »
The family of Mary Ann Philipson have been researched very thoroughly by another descendant of the family living in New Zealand.  This branch of the Philipsons were farmers who became bobbin manufacturers at Staveley. I am interested in another branch of the Philipsons, and together we think we can trace Mary Ann's family back to the the seventeenth century.

Mary Ann's parents were James Philipson and Mary Braithwaite. James's parents were William Philipson b.1764 and Ann Kelty b.1770, who were married in 1790. William was the son of Thomas Philipson b. 1738 and Isabel of Whinfell, Grayrigg.  Thomas was the son of William and Elizabeth Philipson, farmers of Longsleddale. They also lived for a short while at Roosecote cottages in the parish of Dalton, which was then in Lancashire.

William is also mentioned in a surviving quitclaim of 1724 which may support the idea that he was the son of Thomas Philipson and Jennet Sawrey. Thomas died in 1711 at Stricklandkettle. He may also be the brother of John Philipson of Burneside who was the progenitor of an enormous family of Philipsons, whose descendants can be found on many family history forums!

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