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Armed Forces / Re: What was wrong with Hulme Barracks, Manchester?
« on: Monday 31 January 11 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Lisa

You don't give any dates - which would be useful.
I've had a quick look on an old map of Hulme. Phillips Street was the next street to Bonsall Street. A much changed Bonsall Street still exists, but Phillips Street disappeared when Hulme was cleared and re-developed in the 1960s. It was about a 20min. walk to the barracks which were on the other side of Stretford Road. However, there were a number of other army barracks in the area, so he could have been at one of those. The house numbers on Phillips Street went from 1 to 84. I can tell you that on the 1881 census, house number 17 was occupied by Henry Olroyd (a joiner) and his wife Ellen, plus children Elizabeth (3) and Thomas (1). They also had two lodgers, Mary and Alice Holland.

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Armed Forces / Re: What was wrong with Hulme Barracks, Manchester?
« on: Monday 31 January 11 20:57 GMT (UK)  »
It may be of interest to note that the rather grand house which used to be the officers' quarters at Hulme Barracks is still standing (at Jan. 2011). It stands on Princess Street, Hulme and is number 10 at the end of the street.  It is currently converted to provide rented flats. It is the only original building to survive on Princess Street street (which runs parallel to Barrack Street). My great grandfather Joe Willie Broadhead used to live at number 17 on the other side of the street next to the Cornbrook Orphanage at numbers 19-23.
Princess Street and Barrack Street both terminated at the Barracks grounds. On Barrack Street there were the rows of terraced houses which used to provide accommodation for the NCOs. There were two doors to each house, one leading to the upstairs flat and one for the downstairs one. These houses are still there. In the 60s-70s they were refurbished and now they are in use again as flats, still with those double doors. Plenty of images at www.images.manchester.gov.uk showing the barracks. The picture shows the house in 1959, before it was converted to flats.

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Lancashire / Re: Grt Grandfathers Printing Business
« on: Wednesday 31 March 10 17:13 BST (UK)  »
As a former compositor and later desk top publisher (how things quickly changed in the 80's) in a career ran from 1958 to 2005, I can tell you that Chorlton & Knowles of Manchester began in the 1800's and was still going strong at least until the 70's (and maybe even later). I think the Moseley Street address was just an office where customer instructions were received and Newton Mill was the actual works. Like many printers in that era, they had a secondary name. In their case it was The Mayfield Press, which suggests they were in the Mayfield area close to London Road Railway Station (now Piccadilly).
I suppose that it is just possible that the Knowles involved with Ramshaw had some connection with the C & K company, but I doubt it.

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Lancashire / Re: Old maps of Manchester
« on: Thursday 17 September 09 10:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that mate. Best of luck with your work on the maps.
My mum is 93 and grew up in Hulme and Stretford, living in Bold Street, Pine Street, Tamworth Street, etc. Sadly she also has no recollection of Back Preston Street.

If you look at the images of Bold Street on the Manchester Libraries site, there is one showing a plate indicating the boundary between Hulme and Stretford where Bold Street changes to Lever Street.  My mum lived close to this boundary marker.

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Cheshire / Re: Calling all Wythenshawe folk
« on: Wednesday 26 August 09 17:31 BST (UK)  »
Just a couple more bits about Brownley Green.

You are right about Etchells and Brownlow Green being modern Brownley Green.

The Brownley Green area became one of the first new Manchester housing areas to be created in the 1930's, along with Royal Oak, Benchill, Crossacres and Sharston to become part of what was to become the sprawling Wythenshawe Housing estate. The estate re-housed people from the older inner city areas of terraced houses and cobbled streets. The estate continued to be developed after the second world war when Baguley, Newall Green and Woodhouse Park were completed in the late 40's/early 50's. At the time it was the largest housing estate in Europe.

Brownley Green is not 'what we now know as Sharston' as mentioned earlier. Sharston is still a separate district nearby (as is Benchill, which largely divides the two districts).  Brownley Green is still recognised as an area of Wythenshawe by locals. Crossacres is a small area next to Brownley Green and some old documents describe the area as Brownley Green, Crossacres.

Brownley Green is close to the Wythenshawe Civic Centre and much of it has been nibbled away by spread of the site.  Brownley Green school was cleared in recent times and there are new apartment buildings on the site.

Until the 70's/80's one or two of the early buildings from the old days still existed.

I presume you've seen the Brownlow Green smithy photo on the M/cr Libraries site.

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Lancashire / Re: Old maps of Manchester
« on: Monday 24 August 09 15:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that. I did see this later link just after the first effort.

I was looking for Back Preston Street, Hulme, Manchester, which is given as the address of one of my ancestors. I remember Preston Street itself, which was a major highway in Hulme which actually carried tramcars back in the day, but there is no trace of Back Preston Street, which I thought would have been a small side street off the main one.

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Lancashire / Re: Old maps of Manchester
« on: Monday 24 August 09 13:35 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: cathaldus on Saturday 04 October 08 20:15 BST (UK)
The 1857 map of Manchester has already been posted on RootsChat and I have it on my "favourites". The link is:

        http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?

Medlock Street runs from Stretford Road thro' to City road.  Good luck!

Bill

Why does this link no longer work?

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