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Scotland / Re: James Heron RSA help please
« on: Sunday 04 January 26 18:38 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie17 on Sunday 04 January 26 17:44 GMT (UK)
Quote from: eilthireach on Sunday 04 January 26 15:49 GMT (UK)
Quote from: rosie17 on Friday 02 January 26 15:35 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie

Sorry, that's not an exact transcription. Here it is:

"HERON, James, Artist, 7 Warrender Park Crescent, Edinburgh, died 6 March 1928 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh, 20 March, to Charles Millar Heron, his brother, and Clara Heron, his sister, both of 7 Warrender Park Crescent aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 7 January recorded Edinburgh 19 March 1928.  Value of Estate, £449. 1.11"

Note: full address is 7 Warrender Park Crescent, and value of estate is £449, not £499

£449 was quite a lot of money. The CPI Inflation Calculator calculates that as equivalent to £36,046.63 in 2025! (and the Measuringworth.com site shows something close to that amount  (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php?use%5B%5D=CPI&use%5B%5D=WAGE&year_early=1928&pound71=449&shilling71=&pence71=&amount=449&year_source=1928&year_result=2025)

Yes I just put in the basic information regarding his sister and brother and address  ;)

Rosie

Yes, that may have been your intention, but you got it wrong. You misquoted the address! There is no place Warrender Park. It's Warrender Park Crescent or Warrender Park Terrace (where we lived when I was younger). You also misquoted the value of his estate. People who are researching family history need full factual information, not misleading incomplete transcriptions. The original poster might not have access to the source you got your reference from. We don't know what resources a poster can easily access. (You say you just put in the basic information regarding his sister and brother and address - it's for the original poster to decide what information in the resource is useful).

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Scotland / Re: James Heron RSA help please
« on: Sunday 04 January 26 15:49 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie17 on Friday 02 January 26 15:35 GMT (UK)
Probate index
James Heron artist of 7, Warrender Park Edinburgh
Died 6 th March 1928
Confirmation 20 March to his brother Charles Millar Heron sister Clara Heron both of the same address
Will dated 7 January
Value of estate £499.1.11

Rosie

Sorry, that's not an exact transcription. Here it is:

"HERON, James, Artist, 7 Warrender Park Crescent, Edinburgh, died 6 March 1928 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh, 20 March, to Charles Millar Heron, his brother, and Clara Heron, his sister, both of 7 Warrender Park Crescent aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 7 January recorded Edinburgh 19 March 1928.  Value of Estate, £449. 1.11"

Note: full address is 7 Warrender Park Crescent, and value of estate is £449, not £499

£449 was quite a lot of money. The CPI Inflation Calculator calculates that as equivalent to £36,046.63 in 2025! (and the Measuringworth.com site shows something close to that amount  (https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativevalue.php?use%5B%5D=CPI&use%5B%5D=WAGE&year_early=1928&pound71=449&shilling71=&pence71=&amount=449&year_source=1928&year_result=2025)

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Argyllshire / Re: Angus Leitch relatives Islay
« on: Sunday 28 December 25 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
Angus was born 5 February 1831 (and baptised 20 February 1831) in Sunderland, which lies half a mile SE of Loch Gorm on the Rhinns of Islay. The birth and baptism are recorded in the Old Parochial Register for the Parish of Kilchoman, Argyll, Page 114 (Frame 117). (Note: Kilchoman, not Kilchoan!). The marriage register shows that John was from Kindrochid, Argyll, and Elizabeth was from Kilchearan in the Rhinns of Islay, Argyll, and they married 5 December 1826. The family appears at Sunderland in the Parish of Kilchoman, Argyll, in the 1841 Census returns.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Birth 1761
« on: Sunday 28 December 25 14:55 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: David Nicoll on Sunday 28 December 25 11:23 GMT (UK)
Hi,

    Without seeing what is written, I would suggest here, as the baptism is in New Machar?

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/boundaries/#zoom=15.4&lat=57.25707&lon=-2.19907&b=11&o=100&dates=1880&point=57.2450,-2.0976

     Ord of Elrick, the steadying just south of the house.

That is, steading, not steadying. Steading being the buildings on a farm ....

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Saturday 01 November 25 15:39 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: AnCreag on Saturday 01 November 25 13:38 GMT (UK)
Oh, thanks ciderdrinker, it all helps! I came across John's name on the 1861 census but thought the entry said he was born Buckhaven, looking back on it now it looks like Buckhaven, Wick, I'll attach the original shortly.

Now my Roderick is consistently referred to as carpenter/ joiner on marriage/ death certs of his children so I wouldn't expect to find him as a tenant, presumably in the 1841 census? I'll delve further into it though.

Think the date for the 1845 Alex and Margaret wedding is too tight as Roderick's son Roderick appears to have been born in the USA in 1846. There are no official docs though so you never know!!

There is no Buckhaven in Wick or even in Caithness. Buckhaven is in Fife. However, there is a Broadhaven in Wick. According to the Gazetteer for Scotland it was a hamlet that now forms the eastern part of Wick. It was originally known as Boathaven. Quite possibly the census enumerator heard Boathaven but he already knew of the place called Buckhaven and so recorded the stated place of birth as Buckhaven.

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Scotland / Re: Does 'officer meal' refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« on: Friday 19 September 25 20:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: SANTUDM on Friday 19 September 25 16:09 BST (UK)
Quote from: eilthireach on Friday 19 September 25 14:43 BST (UK)
Ground officer was the estate manager.
Thanks very much! That matches my understanding: a ground officer was essentially the estate’s “man on the ground”, dealing with tenants, day-to-day disputes, rents/entries and boundaries, and carrying out the factor’s (or owner’s) instructions.
What still puzzles me is the kirk session accounts entry I posted. I’d have expected a ground officer to be paid by the estate, so why would this appear in the kirk accounts? Is "officer meal" here a parish/kirk-officer allowance (a stipend in meal), i.e., the same man holding two different offices? Any idea will be very helpful.

You're right. I think you can describe a hierarchy: There's the owner of the estate (landowner), then the factor, who manages the estate's affairs on behalf of the owner, and then lastly there is the ground officer, who, as you put it, is the "man on the ground" who has to interact with the tenants on a day-to-day basis, resolve disputes, and generally carry out the orders of the factor.

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Scotland / Re: Does 'officer meal' refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« on: Friday 19 September 25 14:43 BST (UK)  »
Ground officer was the estate manager.

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Midlothian / Re: Burial place
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 17:57 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: specialkg on Friday 30 May 25 18:58 BST (UK)
This is a bit of a long shot but thought I would give it a go. I have the death extract from SP on an ancestor who died in 1952 at Queensberry House, Cannongate. I am trying to find where he is buried or perhaps cremated. Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how I might find this. Can one access the records for Queensberry House for 1952.

I have tried the usual route of Find a Grave and Billion Graves. I have also looked at newspaper deaths to see if I could find who the undertakers were.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Betty

It's not helping directly with your enquiry, but you should note that it's The Canongate, not Cannongate. That's a common mistake, but it has nothing to do with weapons and everything to do with titles of clerics, in this case, priests. It's the lower part of the Royal Mile in Edinburgh, as it says in the description in the Gazetteer for Scotland: (https://www.scottish-places.info/features/featurefirst1000.html)

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Midlothian / Re: George Rankeillor
« on: Wednesday 05 March 25 02:13 GMT (UK)  »
George Rankeillor, b. 17 January 1897 at 20 Bank Street, Edinburgh, to George Rankeillor, labourer in rubber works, and Julia McDonald, who had married 16 November 1894 in Edinburgh. (Without a doubt, the "rubber works" implies the North British Rubber Company, which operated in Edinburgh from 1857 to 1967). The family was living at 11 Lothian Street in Edinburgh at the time of the 1901 Census and at 6 Newton Street, Edinburgh, in the 1911 Census returns. George was an apprentice mason at that time.

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