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Aberdeenshire / Re: Stephens Buildings Peterhead
« on: Friday 25 March 11 02:35 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the clarification.  I had suspected that was the case now that I'm a bit more up to speed on the whole family research thing.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Stephens Buildings Peterhead
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 05:23 GMT (UK)  »
Back after a (very!) long time.  I have found out quite a bit more in the mean time.  I now know that the people in Drainie in 1881 are indeed the wife and child of my great great grandfather, and her parents.  The child Lewis (Luis) was ill at the time, and the father was away at sea at the time, so (I assume) she went to be with her parents in Lossiemouth.  Luis in fact died 5 days after the census was taken.  The mis-spelling of the names was due to the fact that the Edward (mother's) family were illiterate, and the father was away at sea.

Moving on, I am now trying to find out about the father's arrival in Peterhead.  His name was Charles Luis Liebnitz, born in Memel, Prussia around 1850.  We are told he and his brother arrived together as youngsters (possibly 12 and 9), although I can't find any record in previous census.  I know the brother (possibly Henry) ended up in Wales.  I also know that they were helped by the local scoolmaster and minister when they arrived, including sending and receiving letters to and from their family back in Memel.  Unfortunately we have no records of this.  Any advice on where/how to pursue this would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Andy.

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Thanks for the replies.  I do not have the marriage certificate from 1894 - not sure how I missed that as I guess that would be the next logical step.

I also had found that Henry Lobnitz you mentioned, but am almost certain that he is not related.

I am well acquainted with the Liebnitz family in Scotland - (Charles) Luis in that household was my great-great Grandfather.  His fahter was also Charles Luis Liebnitz, a Ship's Carpenter in Memel, Prussia (Germany).  As I said, we were told Luis had a brother who went to Wales and changed his name to Lawrence.  We were also told there was only a couple of years between them, so Henry being born in 1867 doesn't fit, but his family's names do.  The two families kept in touch through one of Luis' daughters, but when she died in 1965 all contact was lost apparently.

It is generally accepted that the two brothers landed in Peterhead, Scotland but I have heard Yarmouth mentioned along the way too, so as you say I should try some other boards too for more information about their first years in the UK.

Anyway, thanks again for your time.

Andy.

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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Henry Lawrence(Liebnitz) Swansea (Master Mariner)
« on: Thursday 03 March 11 10:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.  I am trying to find out about the early life of a Henry Liebnitz b.1867 in Memel, Germany, who was living in Swansea and married Maria Allen Grove in 1894.  He became a naturalised British subject in 1896, and around this time became known as Henry Lawrence.  He is in the Lloyds Captains register 1896-1911.  He lived I think at 26 Kilvey Terrace and 6 Bay View, both St Thomas, and may have lived elsewhere too.

They had two children, John Henry (b.1895) and Elizabeth Winifred (b.1904).  Their births record their name as Liebnitz, but certainly by the time of "Winnies's" birth the family was known as Lawrence.

I believe Henry emigrated to the UK along with his brother (my great-great-Grandfather) as a child/young man.  The dates do not add up however.  I believe that initially they came to Peterhead in Scotland.  Any help in how to go back further i.e. before 1894 with this Henry Liebnitz/Lawrence would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Andy.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Stephens Buildings Peterhead
« on: Friday 21 August 09 09:20 BST (UK)  »
Monica, ev

Thanks for the replies.  The father of these children I am referring to (my great-great-grandfather, Charles Luis Liebnitz) was a seaman originally from Memel, Prussia (now Klaipeda, Lithuania) who came to the UK sometime between 1850 and 1880 and ended up in Peterhead.

I wonder if these buildings were some sort of lodgings for the poor.  I have just quite recently started trying to trace the family so am still at a fairly early stage.  This website certainly seems to be a useful thing though.

Thanks again for the replies - I may well have more questions as I go on!

Andy.

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Aberdeenshire / Stephens Buildings Peterhead
« on: Thursday 20 August 09 22:37 BST (UK)  »
I have tried various internet searches with no luck.  I am trying to find out about the Stephens Buildings in Peterhead, where I believe my great-grandfather was born in 1886 (as well as two of his siblings).  I think they were in St Peter Street. 

What were they?  The oldest child was born elsewhere in Peterhead, so the family must have moved there at some point after 1880 (maybe had to?).

Any information would be appreciated.

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