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Down / Re: Robert Bell and Martha Bell (nee Bell) of Seafin
« on: Tuesday 09 October 12 19:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Sam!

Thank you for your time in giving a reply.  To further clarify, a place called Magheral, is that name shortened/abbreviated?  So many places start with Maghera.... ???(i.e. Magheralin, Magheralagan, Magherally, Magheralone ).  Is there a meaning for the first part of that name (Maghera)?.  Where would the birth, marriage, death records of this place be stored?   Was this place predominantly Presbyterian as my ancestors were?  The name  Lisnavaghrog is listed.  How does this name fit into the picture?  What reference book could you point me to to learn about the history of this area?  So many questions that need answers for this tiny brain to gain an understanding! 

Ever grateful, Cathy

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Down / Looking for Bell's of Seafin or Magheral
« on: Monday 08 October 12 06:05 BST (UK)  »
Hello to all.  :)  I am renewing the hunt since my last post several years ago, for two Bell families, Robert Bell from Seafin, died approximately 1888 at age 81, a farmer.  Martha Mitchell Cupples was a cousin.

His wife is Martha (nee Bell, a second cousin) Bell, died approximately 1894 of either Seafin or Magheral.  What is the difference between these two towns.

Do any death certificates exist from this time period and where would I find them?  I have information sent to me of these dates on a Ballyroney grave marker but would like the paper trail and documentation of children if possible. 

I also do not have their marriage record.  Do any records exist.  I believe their first child was born around 1826 (possibly Joseph) through about 1849 (if that is possible). 

Sincere Thanks for any response

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Down / Re: proper spelling of Annahinchago or Annahunshigo, County Down.
« on: Wednesday 23 September 09 06:00 BST (UK)  »
Hello Trevor,

Have you or your family lived long in the townland of Annahunshigo (Annahinchago) and what would be the names of the Presbyterian churches there.  I am searching for the Youngs from Annahinchago and the Bells from Rathfriland, both are my mother's great great grandparents.  The years would be from 1824 all the way down to 1800s as my mother was not sure of the dates (probaby more around 1806 for both lines).  I wish you great success on your Fishers line.  You will find this a wonderful site with so many helpful and friendly people.
 :)
Cathy

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Down / Re: Robert Bell and Martha Bell (nee Bell) of Seafin
« on: Saturday 29 August 09 19:10 BST (UK)  »
 ;D Many thanks aghadowey for reviewing my post on the Bell family from Seafin/Rathfriland.  I very much appreciate the website link.  Your help as always is greatly appreciated!

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Down / Re: Robert Bell and Martha Bell (nee Bell) of Seafin
« on: Saturday 29 August 09 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Cheers to you Sam.   :-* Thanks for the advice on the Raymond's County Down website and for answering my post on the Bell family from Seafin/Rathfriland.  I will check it out further.

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Down / Re: Robert Bell and Martha Bell (nee Bell) of Seafin
« on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Jim for responding to my post.

How do I understand what is written:
Drumballyroney of Seafin
Drumballyroney of Lisnavagheral
Drumballyroney of Grallaghgreenan
Drumballyroney of Ballyroney

? Drumballyroney the Parish and Seafin, Ballyroney, etc. the township or village?. 

So how do I go about trying to get parish/church records from Seafin or Presbyterian graveyard inscriptions.  Robert Bell, Drumballyroney died 1897 might be close and the other Bells must be related somehow.  How do I find further information for each person on the list you have provided me from RosDavies?  Trying to figure out how to put the puzzle pieces together with proper documentation.  Just a beginner I am!

Also the history information was excellent about Seafin, can't wait to hear another chapter!  Are there old photographs of Seafin in the 1800s.

Cathy

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Down / Robert Bell and Martha Bell (nee Bell) of Seafin
« on: Saturday 29 August 09 06:37 BST (UK)  »
Hello again!  I have found this site so wonderful including the people who answer the posts. 

I am trying to confirm my mother's information on her great grandparents Robert Bell (farmer) and Martha BELL. 

Mom had his birth initially at approximately 1822 but then also has it as 1807, Seafin, Down, Ireland.  He had two sisters Eliza Ann who married William Johnston, and Rebecca who married a Johnston brother.   Joseph Bell is listed as a brother to Eliza Ann.  A cousin of Robert Bell was Martha Mitchell Cupples. 

Robert BELL was married to Martha BELL (maiden name Bell, maybe a second cousin) born about 1826 but also could be 1808 from Seafin or Magheral.   I have her brothers as Henry Bell (to Liverpool) and William Bell (painter, District Grand Master Orange Lodge).   Her sisters were Rebecca, Mary who married Mr. Camlin (Drumadonald).

Robert and Martha Bell's son was Robert Bell born 1848 of Seafin who was married to Rachel Young born 1847 of Annahinchago (my mother's grandparents). 

My mother had noted Seafin as the birth place for Both Robert Bell and Martha Bell.  Their child Robert and other siblings lived and died in Rathfriland. 

I would love to verify this information both from any distant relatives' records or can someone point me to where to look for parish records to locate documents of either birth, marriage or death certificates.  What would the parish be (Presbyterian) in Seafin.  ? Drumballyroney.

Please tell me about the history of Seafin or point me in that direction.

Bunches of questions I know.

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Down / Re: proper spelling of Annahinchago or Annahunshigo, County Down.
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 08:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello Fiona,

Thank you for the invite to "be given chapter and verse on the YOUNGS of Annahinchago."   My head is spinning at this point as I am trying to understand where everyone fits into the line of so many named William and Robert (both on the Young's and the Bell's family tree).  I am sending this quick post to let you know I am very interested in our shared correspondence.   The evening is late, so I will make another post tomorrow hopefully. 

Just in brief, I am also looking for Robert BELL (born about 1822) of Seafin, Down, Ireland, who married Martha Bell (nee Bell) born about 1826 also of Seafin, Down, Ireland.  They are my mother's great grandparents.   As mother was off on the dates for the great grandparents of William Young and Jane McIlroy (thinking they were born in the 1820's), she might also be off by 10-15 years on these two. 

Their son Robert Bell born 1848 in Seafin, Down, Ireland, died 1919 in Rathfriland was married to Rachel Young born 1847 of Annahinchago (sister to Robert Young born 1839, whose father was William Young).  Their son Robert Bell born 1885 of Rathfriland married Anna Achs (Ochs German spelling) 1911 Oakland, California, USA, and blessed me with my mother Roberta Rachel Bell in 1919 and her older sister. 

I will post again soon.

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Down / Re: proper spelling of Annahinchago or Annahunshigo, County Down.
« on: Monday 17 August 09 09:30 BST (UK)  »
 :D Thank you aghadowey for contributing your information with regards to Annahunshigo.  I'll also give the Ros Davies' Co. Down site another more indepth  look.  So much information to digest for a beginner.

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