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Shane,

    Many thanks for that important information.  It means that I "just missed" on all the critical records I needed, unfortunately.  But it's good to know!

    Thanks,

    Joe

Hello,

      I am trying to locate records for a James Brown, b. 1780-1784, and John Jackson, b. abt. 1766, both Church of Ireland from Roscrea Parish.  I've gone to the North Tipperary website for records, but the records don't begin until the mid 1780's for these families.  Can anyone tell me if the records prior to 1780 have been lost or not?  Or are just the later records listed on the website.  Are there any other records available that could help me?

      Thanks,

      Joe Leahy

Janet,

    That's no problem at all.   I looked at the Tithe Applotment records that I have, which are really difficult to read, and what was probably my John Leahy had significant land in both Gortroe and Cloghfune.    From what you have indicated, it seems as though "Glinns" occupied the area of many townlands south of Lough Leane.  If so, then Gortroe and Cloghfune might be in what was considered "West Glinns", which would match up with the marriage record that I have.   I might not ever be able to confirm, but it's a good working hypothesis for now.

    I've ordered the Bill Quirke book through interlibrary loan, too!

    Thanks,

    Joe

Hi Janet,

         Yes, I am starting to make some progress.  You're telling me about the John Leahy, Esq. being Church of Ireland was a relief - an easy way of distinguishing from my Leahy's.

         Making progress on the Glenns/Glinns/Glynns issue, too.  I've collected a list of all the Killarney RC marriages from 1792 to the 1839, and it is clear that Glenns/Glinns/Glynns are all variation of one place in Killarney parish.  I also compared those records with the Tithe Applotment records and the Griffiths Valuation, and it is clear that this place is not the same as Glen Killaha, which is what I thought earlier.   The place that was listed as Glenns/Glinns/Glynns was apparently located in the vicinity of Faghcullia and Minish, but I'm not sure exactly where.  The name Glenns/Glinns/Glynns must have fallen into misuse between the 1830's and the 1850's (time of Griffiths Valuation).  Interestingly, I did not seem the name Minish mentioned in the early records, so it is possible that Glenns/Glinns/Glynns or portion of it became Minish over time.  I'm not sure about the history there.   I might try to find someone at Trinity College library to see if there is any clues on this topic.

       Thanks so much again for your assistance - you saved me from pursuing an incorrect line of research!

       Joe