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Hi,

I am very interested in the marriage of John Sweet and Elizabeth Oliver in St. Peter's Church, Derby in 1811 as they look like likely candidates for my ancestor James Sweet's parents.

A John and Elizabeth Sweet died in 1837 and 1836 respectively, in Rugeley. Annoying this was shortly before certificates had to be issued by law. I know from James Sweet's 1842 marriage certificate that his father was 'John Sweet - hosier'. I have also found James Sweet's 1820 Rugeley baptism claiming his parents are a John and Elizabeth Sweet.

Any more information from Matlock on the parish record and the bond (if it still exists) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

What surprises me more on reflection is the fact Irene died in Essex. There must have been more to the story. I'll check it out next time I'm over that way.

Hi,

I am trying to find out some information about my great uncle John Evan Thomas (1910-1943). He was born in Knighton, Powys in 1910 and his parents were John Thomas and Sally Ann Wilding. He committed suicide by ingesting poison in 1943 and neither he, nor the circumstances of his death have ever been spoken about. From what I can gather he was married to a woman named Irene (?) who bore him twins who died at birth, she then gave birth to a son who survived, but she herself died soon afterwards. The son was then farmed out of the family following the death of both its parents.

At the time my grandmother, still a teenager, was living with her parents at Cwmllechwyd Fawr in Radnorshire, the family farm, though I have no idea where John was living.

Now no-one directly involved in the case is with us, I wondered if it is possible to find newspaper articles and court transcripts, or at the very least some wider dates and information, as apparently it was a massive scandal at the time.

Thanks

Thanks, if you find out anything about their prior movements such as marriage etc that would be great.

I found out some info about Jane's (or at least John's) parents.

Thomas Toy died in 1831, birth year estimated at 1780 (parish records), and is buried in St. Peter's, Wolverhampton.
Jane Toy died in 1847, birth year estimated at 1781 (according to 1841 census)

Jane Toy Jr. died in 1847 as well.

The marriage of Thomas Toy and Jane Evers in St. Peters in 1804 is a possibility for the couple, but I can't find any children between 1804 and 1815 (John's birth) which would make it more likely.

Jane Toy Jr may have been born in 1816, to tally with her 1841 census entry. Cryptic then, why she doesn't appear with brothers John (born 1815), Thomas (born 1819) and William (born 1822) in parish records. However, John 'is' her brother, that is certain, as he raised her infant son after she died and is listed as 'uncle' on census.

Can't find a death for James Sweet anywhere?