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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters TV programme
« on: Wednesday 17 February 10 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
The Fraser & Fraser office looks quite cramped - having a camera crew under your feet probably doesn't make your jobs any easier, I would imagine.   

Imagine a camera man accidentally knocking over a box of microfiche! I know from my own research that is something you DO NOT want to do...librarians/archivists tend to get a little miffed at that sort of thing.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters TV programme
« on: Wednesday 17 February 10 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Looking forward to the next series already. Fascinating stuff really and got me very interested.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Tuesday 16 February 10 09:28 GMT (UK)  »
Don't you think that heir hunters are right to withhold the information that may have cost them a lot of money to find ?



When it comes to situations when they know how much they will gain from an agreement whilst the other party is signing blindly I not sure that is right.

I appreciate that work has been done and a fair price should be paid (Of course heir hunters need to turn a profit, else we wouldn't have any!). My concern is over the high percentage commission on larger estates, an area open to abuse, and the area the tabloids are focussing on.

Do the heir hunter firms itemise their 'work' to the beneficiaries after the event? I would imagine any expenses have to be fully accounted (receipts etc.), but what about the general day to day work?

The number of cases where the value of the estate is known is pretty small, and in those cases most of the major heir hunting firms offer a choice of payment methods from % to time-spent.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Tuesday 16 February 10 09:25 GMT (UK)  »
The firm that Fraser&Fraser alludes to in his post are not only basing their 'campaign' on outdated and exaggerated information about the working practices of the rest of the entire industry (ie that heir hunting firms are always aware of the value of an estate, fees are routinely charged at 40% or that the name of the deceased is witheld from beneficiaries) but as Fraser&Fraser points out a lot of their own working practices are not beyond scrutiny - outsourcing research to mention only one...

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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters TV programme
« on: Friday 12 February 10 14:01 GMT (UK)  »
If there is no father's name on the certificate he is impossible to trace and so the entire estate will be distributed to maternal heirs.

In the case of countries like Poland were archives are parochial the research firm will go to every length to trace the family but may end up having to be indemnified.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Of course the press don't want to listen, doesn't make for such good headlines.

The fact that this other company are working on outdated information (from over 3 years ago), are distorting the true picture and have their own agenda they are trying to forward doesn't help matters, but how much would their own practices stand up to scrutiny?

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Tuesday 09 February 10 12:37 GMT (UK)  »
I think the company who stated in those hightly reputable "newspapers" ::)
that they only charge a flat fee are slightly misleading, becuase if you read on they then say they will go on to charge time related fees, and if their fee for getting a BDM certificate (if i have read it right) is £50,
then equate that to possible fees they charge,
then i am afraid they won't be getting the part of snow white in the next pantomme.

That's just the tip of the iceberg...

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Tuesday 09 February 10 07:43 GMT (UK)  »
The administrator still has a legal duty to account for all the heirs. The six months is the time for creditors to apply for repayment from the estate not heirs



Indeed.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« on: Monday 08 February 10 15:48 GMT (UK)  »
"The estate cannot be dealt with until all claims to it have been received. Individuals have six months from the date when probate was granted to make claims against the estate."

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/commonlegalproblems/probate.page

That is once an administering solicitor has been appointed, not once the Treasury Solicitor has been notified that there are entitled kin.

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