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Bedfordshire / Re: MUNN Family (Luton)
« on: Friday 15 April 11 22:07 BST (UK) »
You must be related to me in some way - the only niece I'm aware of by name is Sandra
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Bedfordshire / Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
« on: Sunday 03 January 10 15:50 GMT (UK) »
I think I'm okay for the time being thank you, got plenty to work on 
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Bedfordshire / Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
« on: Sunday 03 January 10 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Black Horse Inn - that really rings a bell, thank you all so much =) Her daughter died a couple of days ago (my grandmother) so I can't ask her to clarify, but will get myself through as many certificates as possible. Thanks a huge bunch everyone!
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Bedfordshire / Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
« on: Saturday 02 January 10 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both very much, I'll order both of those now =)
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Bedfordshire / Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
« on: Thursday 31 December 09 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
I'm trying to find some info on my paternal great-grandmother Norah May Lawrence nee Woodward and her parents. I'm told she used to run a pub in Luton(or with her husband George A Lawrence); unsure which one of them was the licensee.
Norah May -
Birth 29 May 1905
Death 15 Apr 1988
in Luton, Bedfordshire
Husband George A Lawrence
Birth 1900 in Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England
Death 26 Aug 1968 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England
Norah May's parents were James William Woodward 1885 – 1955 and Florence Ethel 1881 – 1941 - I am told that they were also publicans. Is anyone able to find them in any licensing/parish records please? I've given up looking after the last few hours, I don't have access to that sort of thing unfortunately =(
Thank you very much
Steven Munn
I'm trying to find some info on my paternal great-grandmother Norah May Lawrence nee Woodward and her parents. I'm told she used to run a pub in Luton(or with her husband George A Lawrence); unsure which one of them was the licensee.
Norah May -
Birth 29 May 1905
Death 15 Apr 1988
in Luton, Bedfordshire
Husband George A Lawrence
Birth 1900 in Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England
Death 26 Aug 1968 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England
Norah May's parents were James William Woodward 1885 – 1955 and Florence Ethel 1881 – 1941 - I am told that they were also publicans. Is anyone able to find them in any licensing/parish records please? I've given up looking after the last few hours, I don't have access to that sort of thing unfortunately =(
Thank you very much
Steven Munn
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Bedfordshire / Re: Poor Relief Records
« on: Wednesday 05 August 09 19:10 BST (UK) »
I was actually in Bedford library yesterday looking up my own stuff, I took a look for your dude but was unable to find a thing. I asked about poor relief records, and according to the librarian it would be pretty near impossible to find - even if you found the right parish, and the right year, then the child would more than likely be listed only by christian name or apparently might be given the surname of the place they were given a free apprenticeship (or take the masters) ... this is where the librarians own name came from when a over a number of years a barrel maker sent food for, and finally took in + apprenticed her great grandfather or great great grandfather...he was given the surname Cooper because of it.
All very interesting stuff but I'm afraid it doesn't help you very much. Sorry!
I'm going back at some point next week, if there's any other info that could help you?
All very interesting stuff but I'm afraid it doesn't help you very much. Sorry!
I'm going back at some point next week, if there's any other info that could help you?
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Bedfordshire / Re: Poor Relief Records
« on: Saturday 01 August 09 22:47 BST (UK) »
If this is him:
Name: William Collett
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bedford
County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 310
(there's also one:
Name: William Arthur Collett
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bedford
County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 358
Poor Relief records were kept in the Parish Chest in the local parish church, and it was the Warden's duty to keep them up to date. Apparently most have now been placed in local records offices - it might be worth travelling to Bedford and having a nose around the records office =)
Name: William Collett
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bedford
County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 310
(there's also one:
Name: William Arthur Collett
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bedford
County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 358
Poor Relief records were kept in the Parish Chest in the local parish church, and it was the Warden's duty to keep them up to date. Apparently most have now been placed in local records offices - it might be worth travelling to Bedford and having a nose around the records office =)
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Bedfordshire / Re: Munn family (Luton)
« on: Thursday 30 July 09 03:21 BST (UK) »
The former Old Sugar Loaf (closed as a beerhouse in 1957)
The former Rose & Crown (demolished 2003)
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Bedfordshire / Re: Munn family (Luton)
« on: Thursday 30 July 09 03:17 BST (UK) »
Regarding James' second pub - The Rose & Crown; searching through similar records has helped also.
In 1899 the property was described as the Rose & Crown (formerly Rose), with yards, orchards, stables, barns, sheds and outbuildings ["This does not appear to belong to the Vendors & is not in the particulars of Sale"] and land in Upper Caldecote of 2a 1r 18p adjoining Rose & Crown and all in occupation of James Nottingham. (Z1039/34/2a: conveyance of licensed premises from Wells & Company to Wells & Winch: 1899;)
The Nottingham's ran the pub from 1886-1911 inclusive;
1886-1904: James Nottingham; until his retirement (HF143/5: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1891-1900; HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1904-1908: his son Joseph Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1908-1911: On the death of Joseph, his widow Martha Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;) when in 1911 it left the family for good...
possibly due to her death but I have no sources for Martha's death.
In 1899 the property was described as the Rose & Crown (formerly Rose), with yards, orchards, stables, barns, sheds and outbuildings ["This does not appear to belong to the Vendors & is not in the particulars of Sale"] and land in Upper Caldecote of 2a 1r 18p adjoining Rose & Crown and all in occupation of James Nottingham. (Z1039/34/2a: conveyance of licensed premises from Wells & Company to Wells & Winch: 1899;)
The Nottingham's ran the pub from 1886-1911 inclusive;
1886-1904: James Nottingham; until his retirement (HF143/5: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1891-1900; HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1904-1908: his son Joseph Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;)
1908-1911: On the death of Joseph, his widow Martha Nottingham; (HF143/6: Register of Alehouse Licences - Biggleswade Petty Sessional Division: 1900-1914;) when in 1911 it left the family for good...
possibly due to her death but I have no sources for Martha's death.