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Just spoke to one of my newly discovered Smith relatives and she tells me she has Young details on her Smith family tree.  I will have a look in a mo. Also she tell me she has all the Norham church yard details of headstones and so when I go up north next month I will have a look at them. Also if you have time to trawl through the Norham parish records which can be found on line which I found through Family Search - Diocese of Durham Bishops Transcripts ca. 1700-1900 you may find something about the Youngs - I haven't looked for three years but am convinced I noticed mention of  Grace Annes first husband.  You may like to look at my family tree on Ancestory as well. There is obviously a connection between these Youngs as she ended up at the farm. Will try to up load the photo - it is New Ladykirk by the way.

Hello again. Sorry to have mentioned the Fish family.  i originally thought you had mentioned them but on looking back realise you didn't! I think that the Smiths may have owned the farm  as they were living in Loanend when Grace Ann married my great grandfather and then they must have moved back to the farm  - I am presuming Grace was  there when David died.  I have been to see the farm and have a photo of it if you are interested although no doubt you could find it on google maps. it is very large and just up from the church with wonderful views.  I really don't know much about the Youngs although I think there are a few in Norham church yard.  I am going up north next month so could have a look round Norham churchyard if you would like - it is becoming quite familiar !

I could look in Berwick record office too for you as I am popping in there when I go..  Just let me know what you want to know and I can ask.

I am not being of much help to you According to information on Norham township 1864 there were several Youngs - two were monumental masons and one a provisions dealer.  No farmers at that time. Ladykirk is so close to Norham I know that folks went back and forth over the bridge into Scotland.

I will try and find out who moved into Ladykirk after the Smiths moved out.  It makes sense that Youngs were there around 1820.  My grt grt grandfathere was born 1811 and married 1834 and then moved into the farm.  Helen Young was with them.  It might also be interesting to discover what David put in his will re the farm and have a look for Helen in the censuses.

Hi Pat Sorry for the error.  I am a little out of date with my research- lack of time but Velvet hall is definitely a name I have read about.  No doubt my ancestors were familiar with it.  The paxtons could be linked  . I have a map I purchased with some useful names on it  - Norham and Berwick 1864 published by Alan Godfrey it has bee really useful to me. On it is listed Paxton John snr.surgeon, Paxton John junior surgeon-medical officer for Norham district,and public health officer.  This gentleman was my grandfathers guardian . Is this any help?  I do think paxton is a common name in the area.  I will keep in touch. jane

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Re your research into David Smith - according to my mother he did marry and went elsewhere-she doesn't know location.  She has no knowledge of Ellie or Jane.  Have discovered that Ann Fish senior was innkeeper at the neighbouring village of Etal at the now well known Black Bull pub.  Not sure when though.