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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Saturday 29 August 09 21:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for this information Wallhanger.

My father is suffering from the early stages of dementia but with the details you provided I managed to confirm with him that he is the grandson of Harry Jackson and Ann Lakin.

It was quite emotional to hear him recall that his mother, Martha Jackson, was indeed known as Patti. I imagine he may not have heard her called by this name for perhaps 30 or 40 years. He does not remember her twin brother Harold at all, nor her sister Mary, but all the other aunties and uncles he could name easily.

My fathers name by the way is Kenneth Newton Draper

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Tuesday 28 July 09 16:03 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: miggins on Friday 24 July 09 21:01 BST (UK)
Hi Bluegrass

I've just spoken to my mother who was born in 1925 and she remembers Doris and Grace Jackson but she doesn't remember Martha or Frank.   Does your father remember the names of the step siblings?   My mother remembers going over to Woodhouses to visit relatives - possibly Jacksons.   They walked down Penn Lane and through the Spinney out to Woodhouses.   Could Thomas Jackson have been Harry's brother.   Harry's parents were Edmund and Fanny Jackson.

 Ada Jackson married Bill Beardsley who was my mother's Uncle.   They had two sons, Thomas and Stanley.   They first lived at The Pingles, Mount Joy and then moved out of the village to Newbo(u)ld where there were lots of mines.  It was there that their son Thomas contracted Typhoid Fever at the age of 18yrs.   He died in 1938/9.   Stanley died about 10 years ago.   When Ada & Bill moved back to Melbourne they lived in Victoria Street and then in The Market Place.   I remember visiting them there as a young girl.

My mother has asked if you have come across a Sal(Sally?) Jackson and Arthur Jackson who owned a small shop in The High St. selling groceries/general stores.






Hi Miggins

I'm afraid my father is in hospital in Somerset and not in the best of health.  I am in the USA and I try and speak to him on the phone as much as possible but as you can imagine, subject matter is limited and he has difficulty in concentrating. Like many people in their 80's he sometimes finds it easier to talk about things which happened many many years ago and that's really why this market gardener topic is so interesting.

He does remember an Arthur Jackson who he thinks would be a similar age to himself (born 1923) but can't remember Sal or a shop in Melbourne. The Arthur Jackson he knew was about 5'10" tall, a handsome fellow and a very good darts player. Not much to go on but maybe it is the same person your mother knew.

I'll ask him if he remembers more about his Auntie Ada and Uncle Bill when we speak next time.

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Friday 24 July 09 14:13 BST (UK)  »
I will try and find the name of my father's grandmother.

I found out from my father that my grandmother had three sisters and one brother. Martha (his mother), Ada, Grace, Doris and Frank. He remembers them having step siblings which could be from the first marriage to Maria Beardsley.

However he doesn't remember his maternal grandfather being Harry. Also, I was always led to believe my Grandmothers home was at Woodhouses near Melbourne which I think was the smallholding of Thomas Jackson. Perhaps there is another reason his mother was at North St when he was born.

Ada Jackson married Bill Beardsley so it looks as though there is a family connection there and my Dad thought they lived in Victoria St Melbourne.

Frank married Hilda Lane the daughter of Fred Lane and they lived at Barrow on Trent. He remembers Fred Lane was in charge of a threshing machine.


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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Wednesday 22 July 09 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: miggins on Tuesday 18 November 08 23:01 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

Some of my ancestors were also Market Gardeners in Melbourne.  My G.G.Grandmother Beardsley owned a Garden in Cockshute Lane and I may have links with the Jackson family as in 1882 Maria Beardsley married Harry Jackson, son of Edmund Jackson who was also a Market Gardener.

My mother says they grew most veg. inc. celery.  As a young girl she said the smell in the tying houses was lovely and bunches of spring onions, radishes etc. were tied with raffia.   Her Grandmother, Mary Beardsley, was said to be the fastest bunch tier in Melbourne!!!   Another Beardsley had a Market Garden in Bolton Lane, Derby.

Don't know if this is of any help.





My father was born in 1923 at North Street Melbourne. His mother was Martha Jackson and her father was a market gardener. I guess that Harry Jackson would be her father. Perhaps in those days Martha would have gone back to her parents home to give birth. I have heard my father talk about an Auntie Ada and wonder if this was Martha's sister.

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