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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 08:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Cando

Can eliminate 1903 Frederick.
I think best for me to first get Eliza Lee's death from WA. Hopefully with their children listed.
Then see where that might lead.

Not relevant to this topic, but to see a little more on Alfred and brother German Thomas, see WDYTYA? for Jack Thompson.

rgds
Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 05:53 GMT (UK)  »
majm

I have not followed up on Frederick's grocery business.

I suspect Frederick ceased his Military Service after wounding in Alma, Crimea in 1854.
Listed in Chelsea Pensioner's twice in 1855. 19th Foot. One a discharge (from Hospital?)
Aged 28 born Dunnamore, Strasford (Stratford?), Wicklow.

Age does not match any other dates.

Re-looked at some Irish records.

Emma Jane born 15 Dec 1862. Baptised 23 Jan 1863, St. Peter's, Dublin.
Parents Frederick Lee and Eliza Lee, 15 Aungier St.
Not seen the other 2 children nor marriage.

Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 04:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thank Rhonda

The information in the WA index for Frederick does not give me much confidence in how much there might be. Will consider getting it.


Neil

Actually, Eliza's Death might be more a worthwhile outlay because it seems to me Frederick was the informant, so he would have added his children if that was required.

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 04:33 GMT (UK)  »
majm

Not sure about that Frederick in 1905.
Many Frederick deaths from 1900 to say 1960, but few readily fit.

In my reply I was referring to 1903 death of Frederick A Lee, aged 46 at Kenmore, Goulburn 6001/1903. So math's would be born abt 1857; not 1859.
Also 2 Frederick W's deaths in 1901, and 1903.

In Australian Dictionary of Biography entry on Alfred Lee, it has that his father Frederick Norman Lee (unconvinced for Norman) went to NZ in 1867 with wife and 3 children to take up a land grant.

Frederick Augustus, Full age, born NZ (so 21 or more) when married Elizabeth Jeffery in 1886.
Born abt 1865 or earlier.
So born NZ is seems incorrect. Probably one of the 3 children who went to NZ - Alfred was one.
Not found any births so far for them in Ireland.

May be was in County Wicklow. No evidence yet and records pre-1860's are problematic - as many will know.
Not followed up much on Frederick Lee's side, who I think originally might have been from there too. Maybe Meldrum name I referred to earlier is a clue for anyone wanting to go back into Lee side. Not my main interest.

Just part of quite a few inconsistencies I have with the family.

Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 02:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks majm

I had seen his death, and as Frederick A Lee seemed the best candidate.
At 46 means born around 1859 - within probable age range.
Been put off getting it because possibly no parental information.
However, may be other recognisable names on it.

Think I will do a little more in NZ first.
May be more of Frederick Augustus' family there I need.

Neil


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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 01:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks majam

I do have some other information but I am not really wanting to get into too many more details.
Have done some work previously in immigration and NZ BMD's. Most of their children seem not recorded in NZ civil.

Really is a matter of completeness to find all the children of Frederick Lee and Eliza Finlay.
So far as I can see no one had identified Frederick Augustus and Emma Jane as their children.
Mainly to help with my DNA matches.

Have some matches from other Finlay branches who went to NZ. But seems to be a couple who do not fit with those I know about.

Might be other children not yet identified?

Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 00:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Cando

That NZ Papers Past seems very promising!
Expect to be in NZ somewhere.
As I recall, later BMD's there have less information.

Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 00:32 GMT (UK)  »
I took info from NSW 1934 Electoral Roll for Dorrigo where seems listed as -

Shea, Emma Jane Meldrum, - Hernani, Home Duties

Neil

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Australia / Re: Frederick Augustus Lee and Elizabeth Jeffrey
« on: Friday 14 December 18 00:23 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies, it was Annie.

Frederick Lee was a Colour-Sergeant and wounded in the battle of Alma in 1854 (possibly with 19th Foot - The Green Howards)
Probably the source of use of Alma in some family names.

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