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Surrey / Re: William Earl 14 dec 1822 son of Esther Earl of Bramley Surrey
« on: Friday 14 February 25 03:02 GMT (UK) »
James Longhurst is william father
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Down / Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
« on: Thursday 06 June 24 03:51 BST (UK) »Does anyone have any information re Hamilton Peacock Logan? I am trying to trace his father etc. I know he married Jane Davidson but can't find any thing re his birth or his parents.well Peacock Logan was an uncle too my Jane Logan who Married John Mclwrath,also just found this for a james logan who died 24 jan 1812 killinchy
Any help would be appreciated.
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Surrey / Re: Trying to find father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley ABT 1817
« on: Monday 29 April 19 17:09 BST (UK) »Well if no father is on the birth or baptism it's not likely you will ever find out for sure.
How do you know James was the father of William Earl and how far apart were the boys born?
Court records for maintaining child and burden to parish,and he was in prison for to many illegitimate children,,there was 4 years difference between the two brothers
Bastardly Record
13 Jan 1824 • HO 17/44/93
James Longhurst: getting Esther Earl with child, likely to be born a bastard and chargeable to the parish. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14603696 Printed Kalendar of 119 prisoners held at Brixton, Kingston-upon Thames and Guildford
Bastardly Record
5 Oct 1816 • surrey
got a Hannah Creasey with child
Filiation order: James Longhurst of Wonersh, labourer, reputed father of a female bastard child born to Milly Warner on 27 Dec 1813, to pay £2 13s 6d towards maintenance to date to Wonersh parish, and a further 2s 6d a week whilst the child is chargeable to the parish. Martha Haynes to pay 1s a week
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Surrey / Trying to find father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley ABT 1817
« on: Monday 29 April 19 03:43 BST (UK) »
hi again
Got Great results last time so i try again
Well same family of sorts
I am trying to find who the father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley
yet another illegitimate child and a brother to William Earl who was illegitimate to Esther Earl and James Longhurst
Foot note there is a James Longhurst in the area having a lot of children to other women
Also Esther Earl Married a William Warner who is also illegitimate, his mother is Leah Warner
And her sister Milly Warner had a illegitimate child to a James Longhurst named "{Mary Longhurst Warner"
there maybe more than one james as the numbers are too many for one guy, mind you he did end up in prison..
And lived to a grand old age of 94 and buried in Christ Church Shamley green 11 Feb 1887
but my main interest in this post is father of James Earl, and i wont be surprised if it is that guy
so thanks in advance
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466422435/facts
Baptism
13 Jul 1817 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Burial
27 Oct 1840 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Got Great results last time so i try again
Well same family of sorts
I am trying to find who the father of James Earl son of Esther Earl from Bramley
yet another illegitimate child and a brother to William Earl who was illegitimate to Esther Earl and James Longhurst
Foot note there is a James Longhurst in the area having a lot of children to other women
Also Esther Earl Married a William Warner who is also illegitimate, his mother is Leah Warner
And her sister Milly Warner had a illegitimate child to a James Longhurst named "{Mary Longhurst Warner"
there maybe more than one james as the numbers are too many for one guy, mind you he did end up in prison..
And lived to a grand old age of 94 and buried in Christ Church Shamley green 11 Feb 1887
but my main interest in this post is father of James Earl, and i wont be surprised if it is that guy
so thanks in advance
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466422435/facts
Baptism
13 Jul 1817 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Burial
27 Oct 1840 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Brixton Prison 1824 look up please James Longhurst
« on: Thursday 18 April 19 08:53 BST (UK) »Filiation order: James Longhurst of Wonersh, labourer, reputed father of a female bastard child born to Mille Warner on 27 Dec 1813
http://www.surreyarchives.org.uk/Calmview/
Cheers that great,this guy is getting worse,Esther ended up marrying a Warner too,I thought he would have at least 3
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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Brixton Prison 1824 look up please James Longhurst
« on: Thursday 18 April 19 03:58 BST (UK) »
Brixton Prison 1824 look up please James Longhurst
Hi found info he was in Brixton in 1824 January for fathering a child out of wedlock,and most likey a repaet offender as i found another by the same name that may be him
What info i need is his parish he is from,even parents be good
i think he lved in Wonersh, Surrey, England
but most likey born else where
the one i am working on is this record
Name of Child was William Earl of Bramley Born 4 DEC 1822 • Bramley, Surrey, England
13 Jan 1824 • HO 17/44/93
James Longhurst: getting Esther Earl with child, likely to be born a bastard and chargeable to the parish. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14603696 Printed Kalendar of 119 prisoners held at Brixton, Kingston-upon Thames and Guildford
the other was fathering a child to Hannah Ceasey a child named Mercy ABT 1815 • Shere, Surrey, England
cheers for any help on this,his name has solve a 200 year mystery and like to finish it
Hi found info he was in Brixton in 1824 January for fathering a child out of wedlock,and most likey a repaet offender as i found another by the same name that may be him
What info i need is his parish he is from,even parents be good
i think he lved in Wonersh, Surrey, England
but most likey born else where
the one i am working on is this record
Name of Child was William Earl of Bramley Born 4 DEC 1822 • Bramley, Surrey, England
13 Jan 1824 • HO 17/44/93
James Longhurst: getting Esther Earl with child, likely to be born a bastard and chargeable to the parish. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14603696 Printed Kalendar of 119 prisoners held at Brixton, Kingston-upon Thames and Guildford
the other was fathering a child to Hannah Ceasey a child named Mercy ABT 1815 • Shere, Surrey, England
cheers for any help on this,his name has solve a 200 year mystery and like to finish it
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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« on: Thursday 04 April 19 00:14 BST (UK) »
wow this solves a 200 year mystery
big thanks
big thanks
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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 00:32 BST (UK) »
Just an update maybe found him on the 1841 Rail laborer Horley Surrey
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Surrey Lookup Requests / William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
« on: Monday 01 April 19 04:57 BST (UK) »
William Earl 1822 -1900 of Bramley Surrey looking for Bastardy Records
https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts
Hi from NZ been working on this tree for awhile and got most bits off his complicated life
he was Son of Esther Earl father unknown
Esther married a William Warner
Esther born abt 1798 • Bramley, Surrey, England Death 25 MAR 1875 • Bramley Surrey, United Kingdom
William was born 4 Dec 1822 • Bramley, Surrey, England
Baptism 15 Feb 1824 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Death 14 JANUARY 1900 Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
what i have found but not sure if him a William Earl married a Sarah Turner(died after a few months of marriage)
21 Jul 1851 • Surrey FHL Film Number: 397761, 397762, 397763, 97141
what was interesting was this William Earl listed his father as a JAMES LONGHURST
there are a few floating around near the Bramely area at the time
would love to confirm if this is the right William earl and this is his father
so would there be a bastardy record for the Bramley district that may have his name in it
William also came out to NZ and had at least on child there,this is the line i am working on for a friend
he had more children in England and in South Africa
.but there is a big blank of years till he reached NZ
Last record is as a rail laborer in census
Residence 1851 • Orlestone, Kent, England
not on any passenger list,so maybe crew ,or came out to NZ to work on the railway been built at the time
I think his earl family worked at Wintershall or near by,his grandfather did live at Little Gate St Bramley.
But in that area anyway, the tree is up on Ancestry and public, save me puting more detail down
I am just interested in his father mainly,and lost time
this maybe his passport number when he applied if him
30 Jul 1860 passport 29843 this may be him applying for passport
So thanks in advance for any help on this guy
https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts
https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts
Hi from NZ been working on this tree for awhile and got most bits off his complicated life
he was Son of Esther Earl father unknown
Esther married a William Warner
Esther born abt 1798 • Bramley, Surrey, England Death 25 MAR 1875 • Bramley Surrey, United Kingdom
William was born 4 Dec 1822 • Bramley, Surrey, England
Baptism 15 Feb 1824 • Bramley, Holy Trinity, Surrey, England
Death 14 JANUARY 1900 Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
what i have found but not sure if him a William Earl married a Sarah Turner(died after a few months of marriage)
21 Jul 1851 • Surrey FHL Film Number: 397761, 397762, 397763, 97141
what was interesting was this William Earl listed his father as a JAMES LONGHURST
there are a few floating around near the Bramely area at the time
would love to confirm if this is the right William earl and this is his father
so would there be a bastardy record for the Bramley district that may have his name in it
William also came out to NZ and had at least on child there,this is the line i am working on for a friend
he had more children in England and in South Africa
.but there is a big blank of years till he reached NZ
Last record is as a rail laborer in census
Residence 1851 • Orlestone, Kent, England
not on any passenger list,so maybe crew ,or came out to NZ to work on the railway been built at the time
I think his earl family worked at Wintershall or near by,his grandfather did live at Little Gate St Bramley.
But in that area anyway, the tree is up on Ancestry and public, save me puting more detail down
I am just interested in his father mainly,and lost time
this maybe his passport number when he applied if him
30 Jul 1860 passport 29843 this may be him applying for passport
So thanks in advance for any help on this guy
https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/82764159/person/48466407267/facts