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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Sunday 05 September 10 09:56 BST (UK)  »
I am as you may gather a direct descendant of Thomas Scott and Mary Lawson of Netherhall Sandilands. You have a direct line from Thomas's only sister. My late grandmother Jessie Scott Todd Tennant of Ponfeigh Place Farm and Netherton Farm Hyndfordbridge can recall her grandmother Janet Scott talk about her grandmother Mary Hay (Scott) of Netherhall.
I am curently trying to do some research on Hon. Wiliam Hay of Lawfield - father of Mary Hay and in particular his first wife who we did not know about until fairly recently.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Saturday 08 August 09 12:09 BST (UK)  »
Not a sand pit but a peat bog. Extraction has taken place there for years.

Regarding almost all the surrounding farms , they have all been farmed by successive generations of William Scott and Mary Hay. At this point none are still farmed.

For successive generations of my family, Mary Hay was always known as Lady Mary. I do not know how as she was not at least the daughter of an earl or a viscount!!

LWR

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Wednesday 29 July 09 21:13 BST (UK)  »
Mary Hay did leave quite a sum of money in 1839. You should have a look at her will as recorded at National Archives in Edinburgh. You can get a copy through Scotlands People.

LWR

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Wednesday 29 July 09 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks LWR,
Now it's a little easier to move, knowing the connection. In fact some of the history is turning out to be very interesting. I have noticed that Mary Hay never gets a mention anywhere other than in the record of her birth. She was supposedly written off for marrying below her station, but you would have thought that mention of her would have appeared somewhere.

Ken

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Saturday 25 July 09 15:27 BST (UK)  »
Mary Hay's, parents were the Hon. William Hay of Lawfield & Spott and Miss Elizabeth Sinclair of Stevenson. She was one of three sisters. I have a copy of the parish register showing Mary's birth in East Lothian. Also the parents marriage.
William Hay's father was Lord Alexander Hay of Spott , second son of 1st Marquess of Tweeddale of Gifford, East Lothian. His wife was a Buccleuch (Duke) and it is through this line back, Edward III is reached. Going further back you of course arrive at Edward I - the Hammer of the Scots!!!! Not a family member we Scots which to brag about!
The information that William Hay was married before provides a new angel. I always wondered why William married a much younger lady!!!

Yours for now

LWR

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Friday 24 July 09 20:57 BST (UK)  »
The Scott family does get around. If you were not aware of the Tweeddale connection, then you will not be aware all descendants of Mary Hay are descended from Edward III of England. When Mary Hay married William Scott of Douglas, it cannot have been easy to be a tenanted farmer's wife when you were the grand daughter of both a Lord and a Baronet. Love must have conquered all!!!
Yes I have photographs of the Scott gravestone at Old St. Brides at Douglas. The grave is very close the family mausoleum of the Douglas family.
I notice you visited Netherton Farm. The Carruthers family no longer farm there. I see Douglas Carruthers once a month. I have never told him we are very distantly related. I have a copy of a 1970 family tree of Bess Kirkland and her husband. I knew as a child a Prof. Kirkland who lived in Lanark. I was told we were related.
Netherhall Farm at one time was on the estate of the Earl of Home and is situated near the Douglas Water and about 5 miles from my home town of the Royal burgh Of Lanark.   LWR.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Thursday 16 July 09 21:21 BST (UK)  »
Reply:
Mary Hay died 4 October 1839 according to the grave stone aged 73. (Douglas)
Grace Scott married a farmer from Selkirk.
According to my family tree, Mary Lawson was born 6 February 1794 to Gavin Lawson and Margaret Semple. They were from Lesmahagow Parish and married in March 1793. With the Scotts having a son Gavin ( born 1834) there is a strong possibilty the aforementioned were the grandparents.
Again, my tree did not have an Elizabeth but after some delving I can confirm she did exist and was married to a William Russell. She died in November 1886. Ironically she died at Ponfeigh Place Farm, Ponfeigh which was the home of her youngest sister Janet (Weir) and my great, great grandmother. As a child I lived a quarter of a mile from this farm.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Wednesday 15 July 09 18:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi there, Children in date order:
Mary (1824), Grace (1825), William (1827), Maggie (1830), Thomas (1832), Gavin (1834), James (1836), Annie (1837), Hugh (1839), Helen (1842), Marion (1844) and Janet (1846).

Their parents and grandparents ( Mary Hay) are all buried in a Netherhall plot at St. Bride's Churchyard at Douglas, Lanarkshire. The family stone is a bit weathered to say the least but the first to names are legible. Janet Scott who married a local farmer at Douglas is also buried at St. Bride's.

LWR.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale
« on: Sunday 12 July 09 19:08 BST (UK)  »
Did you know Mary Lawson and her husband had 12 children, the last a daughter being born in 1846. I am a 2x gg grandson and currently live only 5 miles as the crows fly from the family farm of Netherhall at Sandilands.

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