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Staffordshire / Re-investigating a long-standing brick wall - TIDESWELL/TIDSWELL
« on: Tuesday 21 April 20 16:38 BST (UK) »
I have just been given some information from a member here that, whilst not demolishing a long standing brick wall, has certainly put some cracks in it.
The background is my failure to find a birth record for John Tideswell who died in Bonsall, Derbyshire in 1823 "aged 45". I have long suspected, mainly in the basis of names in the family, that he came originally from the Staffordshire moorlands area. Samuel and Lydia in particular occur fairly often in the family, and as far as I could tell are, before about 1820, unique to Ipstones. I also know he married Alice Chadwick at Tissington in 1797 - Alice Tideswell died at Bonsall in 1803 "aged 35". This implies she was born 1768, which jars slightly with John's implied birth in 1778.
The new information I have been given is the will of Samuel Tideswell who died at Mansfield in 1845. In it he mentions Samuel Tideswell of Bonsall, framework knitter, who is definitely the son of my John Tideswell. He also refers to his sisters Lydia and Esther and his deceased brother John. Unfortunately he does not define the relationship between Samuel of Bonsall and John, nor his own relationship to Samuel. There are christening records for Ipstones that fit Samuel (of Mansfield) and his sister Lydia, parents Samuel and Hannah. (1766 and 1771 respectively. )There is also a marriage record that matches Esther. I (and the person who kindly supplied the will) have failed to find any christening record for John or Esther. There is an Ipstones christening for John in 1772, but the wrong parents.
So the question is - can anyone find christenings for John and Esther Tidswell ( this variant is more likely than Tideswell ) parents Samuel and Hannah in the era 1760 -1780? I'd also be interested in any potential marriage record for Samuel and Hannah.
The background is my failure to find a birth record for John Tideswell who died in Bonsall, Derbyshire in 1823 "aged 45". I have long suspected, mainly in the basis of names in the family, that he came originally from the Staffordshire moorlands area. Samuel and Lydia in particular occur fairly often in the family, and as far as I could tell are, before about 1820, unique to Ipstones. I also know he married Alice Chadwick at Tissington in 1797 - Alice Tideswell died at Bonsall in 1803 "aged 35". This implies she was born 1768, which jars slightly with John's implied birth in 1778.
The new information I have been given is the will of Samuel Tideswell who died at Mansfield in 1845. In it he mentions Samuel Tideswell of Bonsall, framework knitter, who is definitely the son of my John Tideswell. He also refers to his sisters Lydia and Esther and his deceased brother John. Unfortunately he does not define the relationship between Samuel of Bonsall and John, nor his own relationship to Samuel. There are christening records for Ipstones that fit Samuel (of Mansfield) and his sister Lydia, parents Samuel and Hannah. (1766 and 1771 respectively. )There is also a marriage record that matches Esther. I (and the person who kindly supplied the will) have failed to find any christening record for John or Esther. There is an Ipstones christening for John in 1772, but the wrong parents.
So the question is - can anyone find christenings for John and Esther Tidswell ( this variant is more likely than Tideswell ) parents Samuel and Hannah in the era 1760 -1780? I'd also be interested in any potential marriage record for Samuel and Hannah.