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John and Henry appear to have the mothers maiden name listed as Fleming on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk .

This is the marriage:
4 Jan 1844 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Birchall made his mark, 21, Mule Spinner, Bachelor, Wallgate
Ann Flemming made her mark, 21, Spinster, Faggy Lane
No father listed for him.   
Her father Henry Flemming, Weaver
Witnesses James Cunningham, made his mark and Elizabeth Halton, made her mark.
Married by Banns by John Lomas Curate

Mo

I also had her figured as a Flemming but couldn't confirm it. That was several years ago, then I received the Huyton info.

I'm wondering if the gap between the ages of the children might indicate that John may have married two different Ann's.

I can't research this myself for a few days. I'm rusty at this and don't have the time until after Christmas.

Mike

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I am trying to confirm some new info that someone has informed me of. It would be the HUYTON surname of a relative's spouse. Here is some info:

In the 1861 census:

RG9 2807/91 Page 36 Green St, Farnworth:
John Birchhall [sic], Head, Mar, 39, Spinner Cotton Mill born Lancs Wigan
Ann Birchhall, Wife, Mar, 38, born Lancs Newton
John Birchhall, Son, 5, Scholar born Lancs Bolton
Henry Birchhall, Son, 1, born Lancs Farnworth
Margret Birchhall, Daur, 14, Weaver in Cotton Mill born Lancs Wigan
Ellen Birchhall, Daur, 11, Scabinger in Cotton Mill born Lancs Bolton
(This is the order that they appear on the census image)

In the 1851 census:

HO107 2211/382 Page4, Great Moor Street, Great Bolton:
John Birchall, Head, Mar, 28, Spinner (Cotton) born Lancs Wigan
Ann Birchall, Wife, Mar, 27 born Lancs Newton
Margaret Birchall, Daur, 4 born Lancs Wigan
Ellen Birchall, daur, 10 months born Lancs Bolton
.............................................................................................

This is the new info I have found. The HUYTON surname is the new info.

Birth:   1861 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
Death:   Jan 31 1936 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Parents:   John Birchall, Ann Birchall (born Huyton)
Siblings:   Margaret Birchall, Margaret Huyton Birchell, Joseph Huyton, Ellen Birchall, John B Birchall, Frances Birchall

......................................................................................

I haven't done any research for a few years and I've lost all my links when I changed computers so I thought I would post the info here.

Can anyone verify that John Birchall's wife was actually the former Ann HUYTON?

Thanks

Mike

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Thanks Charles. I should have posted a better image. That one was only 90 some KB.

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Thanks for the help.   :)

Mike

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meles,

Someone has posted this message on a Norfolk message board about James 1806 sisters, if I read it correctly

I would have to consider these sister's relationship to James as unverified.

"James Rivet b.1806 from Kenninghall, Norfolk, England left and came to Canada. He then went to New York State and married. His father was James Rivet and his mother was Abigail Knights. He had two sisters, Matilda b. 1808 and Sophia b. 1838. His line in the United States has been extensively researched. Looking for others related in England or any knowledge."

 


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"I can verify your John Rivett. He was a policeman!

In 1851 he was living with his father, James b.1778 Kenninghall. He is a farmer of 6 acres of land."
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Great, thanks for that.

Now if only it could be shown that this James Rivett with 6 acres of land was that same James that was married to Abigail Knight/Knights (James Rivett's father).



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As of right now, I think the first thing to check would be for the parents of John Rivett b.1813 in Kenninghall.

I say this because it is already established that the parents of James Revett b.1806 as being James Rivett (1778)  and Abigail Knight/Knights.

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I do not have access to census data, other than the library.

The connection became known to me via Ellis Island records which indicated that an immigrant in the line of John Rivett was heading for his cousins home in Butler City, Indiana, which is where the James Revett family was located.

Thanks

I agree, it seems that I will have to sort out all the Rivetts of one particular generation (from Kenninghall) and fit them all together.


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both would be from Kenninghall, Norfolk.

I think they are brothers.

This is what I have on James Revett:

James Revett: b 1806, Kenninghall, Norfolk. Father was James Rivett b.1778, Kenninghall. Mother was Abilgail Knight b.abt 1778, in Kenninghall. Information verified by an old family history entry. The name changed its spelling to Revett when James apparantly emmigrated to America about 1824. His children were American born: Abilgail, Matilda, Elizabeth Jane, James, George, John, Thomas, Joseph, Mineva...all Revetts by now. His wife was Sarah Haskins/1815 in New York or Pennsylvania.

This is what I have on John Rivett. Born 1813, Kenninghall, Norfolk. Married first to a Susan Nash/1812, then to a Frances/Fanny Hudson (Machin)/b1829 in Holme Hale. Children: Sarah Ann/1837, Elizabeth/1839, John/1845, James/1847, Thomas/1850, Robert/1852...then, Susanah/1857, Mary Jane/1859, Elizabeth/1862.

Looking to try to link these two up using the 41 or 51 census, and whatever sources available. Would like to confirm this somehow or another.

Thanks

Mike



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