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Surrey / Re: Spong family of Woking
« on: Friday 21 January 11 07:17 GMT (UK)  »
I believe that you have been discussing two families not one. The family of Henry and Elizabeth SPONG, and the family of John and Sarah SPONG. The Eliza SPONG who married Henry DYKE is I believe the daughter of John SPONG baptised 3-6-1832 at St Peter's Woking, not the Eliza SPONG daughter of Henry and Elizabeth who was in the Guilford workhouse with her sisters in 1841. In 1841 Eliza SPONG was living at Hook hill Woking with her parents and 8 siblings. In 1851 Eliza SPONG was in service in Northfleet Kent where Henry DYKE lived with his mother and siblings. John SPONG and Henry SPONG may well have been brothers.

Wendy
Dunedin
New Zealand

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Fife / Re: "Laings" in Fife and beyond
« on: Tuesday 30 June 09 04:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi MairiD

Yes I thought it was interesting about Robert too, of course with so many LAING'S it may be coincidence or extended family as you suggest. I will keep digging!

John LAING (1809) and his siblings Margaret (1807) Janet (1810) and Jane (1813) were all christened together on the same day in 1813 Cupar suggesting that either they were not regular church goers or services may have been irregular?  Any further children of John LAING (1780) and Jane/Mgt/Janet SMITH may have had after 1813 would not necessarily have been christened?

There is a John LAING and wife Janet and their daughter Christian (1815) living in Strathmiglo in 1841 who may be a possibility. The ages don't quite fit but maybe?

In 1891 Robert LAING (1819) is living with his married daughter Christian/Christina McGregor with a visitor Helen DUNOVAN b. Strathmiglo. Robert's other children are John, Janet, and William all family names from our LAING branch.

Christian LAING (1815) and Robert LAING (1819) would certainly fit date wise as siblings of our John (1809).

Yes I too think that William LAING and Janet AVES are the most likely parents of John (1780) and have looked at their other children. IGI also gives a Margaret (1785) There are too many possibilities with many of the families having the same names! I will keep looking.

Wendy
Dunedin NZ

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Shropshire / Re: Roberts and Hughs Coalbrookdale
« on: Monday 29 June 09 00:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gwynne

I would have found the info about Mary J. in census data. I have a letter written to my grandfather in 1930 from his uncle Walter Wharfage House, Ironbridge, in which he states that he and his wife are in good health! Of course he may have remarried by 1930?

letter extract...
Glad to say that I am keeping fit & my wife. I have a very busy life both in business and in public work, having been an Alderman & Chairman of our Boro Council, & now have had 25 years as a J.P.

Our Co-op Society continues to grow we have a fairly modern Central and eight Branches, with Butchery business just added. We are just installing a Refrigeration Plant & have just built an up-to-date slaughterhouse. We have a large new Bakery & Confectionery Dept, with Café, with a total trade of about 50,000 pounds per annum, so you will guess I have plenty to occupy my time & energy, with about 40 Employee’s. I am enclosing a Photo on which I appear marked X this is of my committee taken on the occasion of the opening of Café & the resignation of Mr F. Johnson.

Th Shropshire burial index gives Walter's parents as being buried at Holy Trinity Coalbrookdale. Richard ROBERTS 1915 and Caroline ROBERTS nee HUGHES 1917.

Thanks for the information, every bit of the puzzle adds to the big picture!

Wendy

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Shropshire / Re: Roberts and Hughs Coalbrookdale
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 23:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter
Thanks for the info about the Hughes land. There seem to be quite a few HUGHES families in and around Coalbrookdale which means making connections between them is tricky. I will have a think on this one. Thanks again.
Wendy

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Shropshire / Roberts and Hughs Coalbrookdale
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 04:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I am looking for anyone else researching this family.

Richard ROBERTS was born 1833 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, the son of Thomas ROBERTS (1808) and Mary. He married Caroline HUGHES born 1835 in Coalbrookdale, daughter of Benjamin HUGHES and Anne FLETCHER. Richard ROBERTS
Census : 1841 in Age 9, Coalbrookdale, Shropshire
Census : 1851 in Age 19, Coalbrookdale, Shropshire, Wheelwright
Census : 1861 in Cartfeild Cottages, Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, Timber Yard Foreman.
Census : 1871 in Severn Terrace, Madeley, Shropshire, Clerk
Census : 1881 in Wards Row, Madeley, Shropshire, Timber Merchant Foreman
Census : 1891 in 1 Wards Row, Madeley, Shropshire
Census : 1901 in Lincoln Hill, Madeley, Shropshire, Timber Merchant Manager
Caroline Hughes
Census : 1841 in 7 years, Coalbrookdale.
Census : 1851 in 16 years, Upper Forge, Coalbrookdale.
Census : 1861 in ?
Census : 1871 in 36 years, Severn Terrace, Ironbridge.
Census : 1881 in 46 years, Wards Row, Ironbridge.
Census : 1891 in 56 years, 1 Wards Row, Ironbridge.
Census : 1901 in 66 years, Lincoln Hill, Ironbridge.


Children of Richard ROBERTS and Caroline HUGHES:

Alice Emma ROBERTS was born November 15, 1854 in Coalbrookdale, and died June 20, 1931 in Wellington, New Zealand. She married Isaac RYALLS (born PINCHES) March 24, 1880 in Holy Trinity Church, Coalbrookdale.  He was born December 1855 in Coalbrookdale, Shropshire, England and died December 15, 1929 in Wellington, New Zealand.
Census : 1871 in 16 years, Severn Terrace, Coalbrookdale.
Census : 1881 in ? married
Census : 1891 in Middlesex, England
Census : 1901 in Surrey, Croydon, C.B., England
Burial : 1931 in Karori, Wellington

Mary A (Polly) ROBERTS was born 1857 in Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, England.
I think Polly had a drapers shop?

Elizabeth H ROBERTS was born 1859 in Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, England.

Anne C ROBERTS was born 1861 in Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, England.

Thomas B (Tom) ROBERTS was born 1863 in Coalbrookdale. He married Eliza Emma After 1891. She was born 1862 in Coalbrookdale.
Census : 1871 in 8 years, scholar, Severn Terrace, Madeley, Shropshire
Census : 1881 in 18 years, Engine fitter, Wards Row, Ironbridge, Shropshire
Census : 1891 in Engine fitter, 1 Wards Row, Ironbridge, Shropshire
Census : 1901 in 38 years, Engine fitter, 130 Coalport Road. 

Walter ROBERTS was born 1866 in Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, England. He married Mary J. .She was born 1860 in Bridgenorth, Shropshire, England .
Census : 1871 in 5 years, scholar, Severn Terrace, Ironbridge, Shropshire
Census : 1881 in 15 years, Pattern maker at Iron works, Wards Row, Ironbridge, Shropshire
Census : 1901 in 35 years, Pattern maker, Ironbridge.
I think Walter was a town councilor?

Frederic B (Fred) ROBERTS was born 1868 in Coalbrookdale, Madeley, Shropshire, England.

Kate E ROBERTS was born 1870 in Ironbridge, Shropshire..

William O ROBERTS was born 1874.

Margaret ROBERTS was born 1876 in Ironbridge, Shropshire..

Alice and Isaac were my great grandparents.

Cheers
Wendy
Dunedin
New Zealand
 

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Fife / Re: "Laings" in Fife and beyond
« on: Saturday 27 June 09 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi  MairiD

I am researching the same LAING family as you, maybe we can share notes? At the moment I am trying to find out if there is a connection between John Laing b.1809, the gardener at Pitcairlie house and Robert LAING b.1819 the gardener at nearby Wellfield house. 
James STARK was a groom then butler at Wellfield House. John LAING's daughter Margaret LAING b. 1839 and James STARK's son Peter Manuel STARK b.1842 married and emigrated to New Zealand. Margaret's sister Mary LAING married Andrew Robertson ANNAN, their son Henry David/McDougal ANNAN and his cousin Mary-Ann Munro STARK married and adopted my grandmother Mary ANNAN and lived in Dunedin New Zealand.
There is such a confusion of LAING's around fife and they seem to move around a lot!

Cheers
Wendy
Dunedin NZ

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