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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 23:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you…reading these is an exercise in patience and perseverance 
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 20:16 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's the one
I thought the words before his name might mean her husband was dead by 1858
I went backwards, as I said (they are small yearly registers for deaths in Collevecchio) and I could not find Massimantonio's death though
Well, it is quite the undertaking and I would NEVER EVER gotten this far without your assistance.
Susan
I thought the words before his name might mean her husband was dead by 1858
I went backwards, as I said (they are small yearly registers for deaths in Collevecchio) and I could not find Massimantonio's death though
Well, it is quite the undertaking and I would NEVER EVER gotten this far without your assistance.
Susan
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 17:04 BST (UK) »
I was able to find Maria Celeste Feretti's death in 1858 in the Collevecchio register all by myself. 
But I cannot upload anything here...Something is off after I uploaded that initial marriage
Anyway, I made out her age 66 and father Gregorio Ferretti.
But like with her marriage, I still cannot make out her mother's name.
Also the last line on the death record "domiciliata" mentions Massimantonio Pio but I cannot decipher whether the words suggest he is already dead or not.
I went backwards to 1830 and could not find his death
But I cannot upload anything here...Something is off after I uploaded that initial marriage
Anyway, I made out her age 66 and father Gregorio Ferretti.
But like with her marriage, I still cannot make out her mother's name.
Also the last line on the death record "domiciliata" mentions Massimantonio Pio but I cannot decipher whether the words suggest he is already dead or not.
I went backwards to 1830 and could not find his death
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 13:07 BST (UK) »
I did try my hand perusing in the Collevecchio Birth records to find the wives of these Pio men....
Marianna D'Intino birth circa 1859-1865 (as sons born in the 1890s)
Maria Di Martino birth circa 1828
I came up empty
Thinking they probably were from another village/ area....probably where their wedding records are too...as you suggested.
Probably another village in the Province of Teramo though...I will maybe try my hand looking for those surnames online and see where they come from.
But there are a lot of PIOs in Collevecchio, Teramo so I think this was definitely the Mother land for them!!!!!
Marianna D'Intino birth circa 1859-1865 (as sons born in the 1890s)
Maria Di Martino birth circa 1828
I came up empty
Thinking they probably were from another village/ area....probably where their wedding records are too...as you suggested.
Probably another village in the Province of Teramo though...I will maybe try my hand looking for those surnames online and see where they come from.
But there are a lot of PIOs in Collevecchio, Teramo so I think this was definitely the Mother land for them!!!!!
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 12:38 BST (UK) »
PS- Wonderful that you Mom celebrated her 90th birthday! My Mom will be turning 87 at the end of this month 
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Friday 04 October 24 12:17 BST (UK) »
I cannot thank you enough manukarik
These are wonderful finds that have taken a very bare family tree into one getting fuller by the day!
You have a really great eye….as I look at these records and I have to look several times, over & over and really focus to just see their names
You finding them in a sea of similar documents is really amazing
I am trying to make out parents for Massimantonio & Celeste - ideas?
Clearly this Pio family was in that area for at least a century
These are wonderful finds that have taken a very bare family tree into one getting fuller by the day!
You have a really great eye….as I look at these records and I have to look several times, over & over and really focus to just see their names
You finding them in a sea of similar documents is really amazing
I am trying to make out parents for Massimantonio & Celeste - ideas?
Clearly this Pio family was in that area for at least a century
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Wednesday 02 October 24 21:40 BST (UK) »
I think I got Gaetano's parents from his death record at Family search: Massimantonio and Celeste Ferretti
Says they were married in 1823 but does not provide a link to their marriage document.
Does have the link to Gaetano's death in 1912 and it alludes to his birth as being 1825 based on his age at the time of death as 87.
Too bad these records for Collevecchio are so hit and miss
Could I ask if either of you could try for a birth for Marianna D'Intino?
Big ask after a long day
Susan
Says they were married in 1823 but does not provide a link to their marriage document.
Does have the link to Gaetano's death in 1912 and it alludes to his birth as being 1825 based on his age at the time of death as 87.
Too bad these records for Collevecchio are so hit and miss
Could I ask if either of you could try for a birth for Marianna D'Intino?
Big ask after a long day
Susan
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Wednesday 02 October 24 21:03 BST (UK) »
I cannot thank you both enough Zefiro and manukarik
Thank you for persevering when it looked like this was going nowhere.
Bits and pieces and with your help and it came together.
So I now have a family for my Enrico Pio born 1896.
Brother Ercole Pio - their father Vincenzo and their mother Marianna D'Intino.
And I have Vincenzo's brother Massimoantonio and their father Gaetano and mother Marie De Martino!
And you both are great at interpreting the writing too!!!!
Thank you for persevering when it looked like this was going nowhere.
Bits and pieces and with your help and it came together.
So I now have a family for my Enrico Pio born 1896.
Brother Ercole Pio - their father Vincenzo and their mother Marianna D'Intino.
And I have Vincenzo's brother Massimoantonio and their father Gaetano and mother Marie De Martino!
And you both are great at interpreting the writing too!!!!
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Europe / Re: Finding Vital stats for Montorio Nei Frentani, Italy
« on: Wednesday 02 October 24 20:19 BST (UK) »
TEAM WORK - or rather a huge thank you to you manukarik!
Wonderful!!!
For some reason I cannot upload anything here
But from Family Search I got the marriage for Ercole Pio - if someone could look at it and tell me the name of his mother that would be great as I do not think it is Dittici.
"Italia, Teramo, Teramo, Stato Civile (Tribunale), 1866-1940",
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 30 Jan 1926
Event Place Montorio al Vomano, Teramo, Abruzzo, Italia
Event Place (Original) Montorio al Vomano
Certificate Number 6
Wonderful!!!
For some reason I cannot upload anything here
But from Family Search I got the marriage for Ercole Pio - if someone could look at it and tell me the name of his mother that would be great as I do not think it is Dittici
."Italia, Teramo, Teramo, Stato Civile (Tribunale), 1866-1940",
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 30 Jan 1926
Event Place Montorio al Vomano, Teramo, Abruzzo, Italia
Event Place (Original) Montorio al Vomano
Certificate Number 6