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Thank you Spendlove and David for your comments.  i checked Troth Wall's will and came to the conclusion that her name was TROTH.   There seem to be a number i people with that name during thus period in Derbyshire.

David .
I looked at Thomas Toundrow's  will prepared  23 May 1639 aand finalised for  the inventory and probate 3 June  1640. I presume Thomas Toundow of Ashover died possibly in May 1640.  As i mentioned before this will  is a dificult will to read.  My son helped me and what we found was not helpful to our speculation regarding Troath Toundrow baptised Ashover 22 Sept 1622 parents Thomas and Rosamnde).   
In the will.
1)  Thomas mentioned his lovong wife Elizabeth.  I take it Troath's mother Rosamunde had died.
2) Thomas  referred to "my children" not naming them but did implyibg  that they were under age and it mentioned getting their inheritance by age 16.
3) Thomas refers to his two bothers named George and William.

So not much progress thee.   I thinks some of the  Toundrow family stayed in Ashover..  Forty  three years later another Troth Toundrow was paptised in Ashover on 27 February 1665 parents William and Susana. 
 
Unless i can recover some new information I think I am not going to solve who Troth Wall'sparents were.  Any suggestions and help would be appreciated.

marp
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Thank you David for your suggestion that nearby oarish records may not be available as their start date is likely to be later than Troth's birth.   I will look into this.

Thabks everyone again for your help.

marp

Hi,

My direct ancestor iis John Wall (1621-1687) of Darley, Derbyshire/.  I haver quite a bit of information about him but his wife Troth remains a mystery.   In his will  she is referred to as Troth Wall as is her burial record 15 July 1692. I cannot find a record of her birth, baptism or their marriage record.

I found some information which did not really add up that her father Anthony Troth was from Feckenham, Worcestershire.  However, I believe that Troth is John Wall's wife Christian name not her unmarried surname.

Any help would be appreciated.

marp

Thanks for your reply.  Robert Oliver, son of James, was baptised in 1727 in Jedburgh.  Family stories (which may or may not be true) indicate Robert may have been the Jacobite soldier who  left the army and settled in Hartington, Derbyshire.

 I was brought up in Derbyshire, near Derby, where the Jacobite army came to a halt in 1745.  Although it may have been difficult and hazardous, Derbyshire accounts indicate that some soldiers did indeed defect/abscond/desert.  This does give some (although not a great deal) of credence to the family story.

Thanks again for your response.
marp

Hi, many thanks for your responses.

The question of surname distribution is interesting and I had not thought of that.  I will get around to it.  I had not found the  1723 birth of Robert,  illegitimate son of Sarah Oliver in Chapel-en-the-Frith. Thank You 'Watson".

Trish, thank you for your information.   Robert Oliver married Elizabeth Salt (1729-1767)  at St Giles, Hartington on 9 April 1752.  Among other children they had a son named Robert Oliver bapt Hartington on 17 July 1761.  This Robert married Sarah Alsoppe on 20 August 1786 in Monyash and he died May 1845 in Hartington.

I will follow up the information on Hellen Stevenson and Joseph Oliver who married in 1711.  It indicates that there was a family named Oliver in  Hartington!

Thank you again, both of you.  More work to be done!

marp

There are a few Robert Olivers around in this family so it is important not to confuse them, although easy to do..