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Hi Celia

Found a death entry in 1860 that looks like the same Catherine.  Still doesn't answer the query about her birth parish though.    but throws another wild curve as it has her parents as Peter Weir and Mary Robb who may come from Aberdeen

As asked for I've sent you various Hunter details to your email if you care to have a look

On the 1841. census for Govan, Lanark,
Address Knowehead, we have this family.

Hunter William, M. age 30 years, Wright. born outside census area,
Hunter Catherine, F. age 30 years, born Lanarkshire,
Hunter Jean, F. age 11 year, born Lanarkshire,
Hunter Robert, M. age 10 years, born Lanarkshire,
Hunter William, M. age 8 years born Lanarkshire,
Hunter Mary, age 6 years born Lanarkshire,
Hunter Catherine, age 2 years, born Lanarkshire...

...On this census Catherine is born in Lanarkshire, so its possible the wrong birth location on the 1851 census.

If her birth location is indeed lanark then there is a possible birth for her which could knit things together.

Catherine Weir, born 28/Feb/1805. Glasgow, Lanark, to parents Robert Weir, and Janet Alexander.

William, and Catherine, have children called Robert, and Janet.

I would be going all out to find Catherine Weir's, death certificate provided she died some time after 1855. which should verify her parents names.

Regards,
Jonn.

Hi Jonn

I certainly agree that there are some striking similarities between the info I already have and that in the 1841 census.  I know Mary was the 4th child of William & Catherine from her birth OPR in May 1835 and given the 1841 Census was held in June Mary would indeed be 6.  Also William's parents were Robert & Jean therefore no surprises to see those names appear as children.

(EDIT) I had a check on NLS and noted that the 1858 OS map lists a Knowe Street literally round the corner from Bridge Street (later renamed Partick Bridge Street) this fits with their daughter's (Catherine) birth in Kelvinhaugh where the family are known to have stayed.  I also cross referenced the map against the Header Page of the 1841 Census which shows the area of Knowe Street would have been included in the census

The family have a history of not giving accurate ages.  Almost all of the documentation acquired for them has discrepancies with ages (particularly Catherine junior)

Re Catherine's death - I did a very quick search on SP and only returned 28 hits for a death of Catherine Weir between 1855 and 1865 so not a huge amount to look through.  My earlier mistake was adding too many fields.  Although entering 1805 as the birth year narrows the above down to just 3 hits in 1857.

All this still leaves the initial query on what has been recorded as the location in the 1851 census entry - Renfrew, ?Arken/Asken?. 

Thanks for the assistance, I'll spend some more time on SP to follow these leads.

Regards
MacShuibhne

I wondered whether it was a farm "Arken" named after the farmer and maybe there was a misunderstanding about the placename required and it should have been Kilbarchen :-

WILLIAM ARKEN      Male          
   Birth:     02 FEB 1756      
   Christening:  06 FEB 1756      Kilbarchan, Renfrew,    
Parents:
     Father:     JOHN ARKEN    
     Mother:     JANET WILSON

Interesting variation to this query, I hadn't considered anything like this. 

One that has resonance/credibility is that it could be "Asken" a potential phonetic variation of Erskine and has been transcribed as such on several occasions on FreeCEN

Many thanks to each and all who have replied.

I have previously posted on the Renfrewshire board with a few replies giving a potential lead for a settlement known as Ashton, Gourock in the Innerkip Parish which I will follow up on.

I can also see the potential in Erskine (good call macintosh). 

I will spend some time looking for similar entries as suggested.  So far the only documented info I have for this individual is the above 1851 Census entry or as a named person in O.P.R. entries for her childrens birth which occur in Anderston (Barony Parish) c1829-1844.  Although she should appear in the 1841 Census it won't name her birth location so there is little scope for progress there.  She doesn't appear at the family home in the 1861 and is listed as deceased in her daughters marriage in 1865.  All checks for a death entry 1855-1865 have returned no hits which leaves the possibility she died before statutory registration and as such there may be limited information to cross reference against. 

Once again I thank all who have replied.

MacS
     

Hi Fifer1947

Thanks for the comment.  I'm still no further forward with this one.

I'll put a post up on the deciphering/recognizing help board, see if a wider audience can help.

regards
MacShuibhne