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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Sunday 18 September 11 17:56 BST (UK)  »
Sunday 18th September 2011

Hello Phil,

Thank you for your email. Please don't apologise; I'm sure you did your very best and I'm surprised you were able to find out the amount that you did.

Thank you for your kind offer to do a further look-up when you are next in Worcestershire and I will  contact you again if there is anything more I need researching.

Again many thanks and Best Wishes.

Lavinia (NEW ENGLAND)

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Thursday 08 September 11 18:46 BST (UK)  »
Thursday 8th September 2011

Hello Phil,
Thank you very much for all your information and the trouble you have taken to look this up for me.  I do appreciate your efforts as I know how long it can take to find either a tiny bit of information or none at all; which is the result I have had on my last two visits to Shropshire Archives.  My thanks also to your cousin Julie (jaybeebuzz) for sending the information to you.

I have my doubts about Benjamin being born in Kidderminster but I am keeping an open mind.  My next move should be to check the births at Worfield on my next visit to Shrewsbury.   I will plod on trying different avenues and hope to find confirmation of the right Benjamin and Hannah.

Thank you also for correcting the name of Charlotte Bowley; one of the witnesses for Benjamin and Hannah on 27th June 1830.  I read it as ROWLEY.

I do hope you enjoyed your holiday in lovely Worcestershire in spite of the time you spent searching the Archives.

Thank you and Kind regards
Lavinia (NEW ENGLAND)



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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Monday 05 September 11 12:13 BST (UK)  »
Monday 5th September 2011

Hello Trish,
Thank you for your email.  I too am confused! 
I thought the details on the death certificate would be accurate.  The informant was his son-in-law and Benjamin was obviously living with him when he died.   Kinlet village is only a few miles from Highley and it would be natural for him to go and live with his daughter Leah.
I do have the 1841 census and the 1851,61,71,81.

The first son - Wm. on 1841 census and Edwin on 1851 census is probably the same person. 
He could have been born before his parents married
He could have been a relative's son they 'adopted'
He could have been from a previous marriage.

I think I had Hannah's maiden name from an advanced search of Family History.org.   She was born at Kinlet.

The problem is trying to find recorded proof of this information - hence my original query.  I just don't know where people search for such information.

Thank you for your help.

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 15:43 BST (UK)  »
Sunday 4th September 2011

Hello All,

I have just been looking through my papers and have found the Death Certificate for Benjamin Williams -
He died 31st October 1889  Aged 88 yrs.
at Button Bridge, Kinlet.
Informant was Benjamin George (Son-in-Law)  husband of Leah Williams.

This makes his birth year 1801 and not 1811 as given on all the census returns.  I know we should allow for errors but 10 years??

Does this mean that the Benjamin Williams on the 1881 census mentioned in my posting yesterday is a different one?

How do I resolve this please?

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 13:07 BST (UK)  »
Sunday 4th September 2011

Hello Julie,

They were married at St.Mary's. Kidderminster.   Sorry for this mix-up; it was when I was re-arranging paragraphs and I missed this error.

Sorry, and thank you for your email.

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 18:28 BST (UK)  »
Saturday 3rd September 2011 6.20p.m.

Hello Linell,

I'm not sure of his birth date but the 1861 census gives it as 1811 and his place of birth as Warfield, Shropshire - which I think should be WORFIELD.

The 1881 census shows he is widowed aged 70, born Worfield, Shropshire
living with his son Benjamin and Grandson William.

I think that 1810/1811 is probably correct, but there aren't any certificates available for these years are there?

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 16:59 BST (UK)  »
Saturday 3rd September 2011 5.00p.m.

Hello Linell and Philweeks,

Thank you both for your emails.  Sorry about not putting details - must try harder! 
My gr.gr.grandfather/grandmother:
BENJAMIN WILLLIAMS and HANNAH WILLIAMS (nee Davis)
They were married at St.Mary's Church, Kidderminster on 27th June 1830


Details from Marriage Register:-
Benjamin Williams of This Parish, a Bachelor and
Hannah Davis  of This Parish, a Spinster
were married in this Church by Banns with Consent of Parents, this
Twenty-Seventh Day of June in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty.
By me, T.Cook,  Curator
This Marriage was solemnized between us ( Benjamin Williams
                                                                    ( Hannah Davis  her mark X

In the Presence of  ( Charlotte Rowley  her Mark X
                               ( Thos. Andrews


They are on the 1851 census living in Highley with their 3 sons and 4 daughters:-
Edwin,  James,  Sarah,  Mary,  Emma,  Benjamin, Leah.


I am trying to trace the parents of Benjamin and Hannah.

Many thanks for all your help.

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND


















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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Saturday 3rd September 2011

Hello Linell,

Thank you for your email.  I have the document you mention (it was £5.)
and I didn't know it wouldn't show the parent's name.  In fact it gave only the couple's names, date of marriage, Curator's name and the names of two witnesses.  My first attempt to trace these was negative; I shall try again.
One thing which puzzled me was that my gr.gr.grandfather's signature appeared without a X; as did one of the witnesses.  However, the handwriting throughout appeared similar; also to the previous entry.
Is it a copy of the original document?

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND

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Worcestershire / Re: Pre 1830 information
« on: Friday 02 September 11 19:33 BST (UK)  »
Friday 2nd September 2011 7.35p.m.

Hello CaroleW and Yegvard,

Thank you both very much for all your information - quite a bit to go at over the week-end.   
I am rather ignorant and puzzled when it comes to searching indexes.  I have never yet had any luck with them; but probably I don't know how to use them.

No doubt I shall be wanting further help!!

Again many thanks.

Kind regards
NEW ENGLAND


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