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Hi AAHume, yes, I have tried, they don't have much information on him other than what I have shared with them!! I have tried the Uniting church archives also to no avail. I am wondering if anyone has access to papers of the time that may have an obituary. I tried TROVE , but also can't seem to find anything other than his probate notice.
re Kazzann

Thankyou Judy, yes, I did send an email to BDM, the lady who received my email, said she couldn't find one. Seems strange that there would be no death cert, as surely a death cert needs to be sighted for a will/probate to go through. I can only think, something  must be incorrect/ ie: spelling, or how the original document was catalogued.  That is why , if we could find an obituary... maybe it could help !!  

Thanks for that Radcliff, I shall work out the time difference from Australia and see if I can get them when they are open!! Regards Karen

 Hello folk,
could anyone please do a lookup for me re a  QSP???
I am told this is a Quarter Sessions Petition.
Reference number  QSP/3152/46 
Title  Bill of costs of prosecution of Robert Beesley
Date  c1841
Access  this material is available to view at Lancashire Archives by anybody holding a valid reader's ticket.

thankyou so much!!
regards Kazzann

Hello Pels,
interesting!!! Yes I have come across the name Hodskinson throughout many of my family records.
Tell me what you think of these records in regard to your Elizabeth Beesley and  Leonard...

From: Return of Papists...1767 living in Woodplumpton

William Beesley   age 70     a tailor
Ann Beesley       age  50    tailors wife
Henry Beesley            35   Shoe maker
Ellen , his wife             39
Henry and Ellens children
William                         8
Robert                         8   (This Robert is believed to be the Robert who married Margaret Heaton in 1784)
Leonard                       7
Elizabeth                      5
John                            3


Seeing that these Papist records came from 1767, and your Elizabeth  married in 1785... it would make Elizabeth a good age to have married!! ie : born 1762... approx  23 yrs of age at marraige!!!
And they have a brother called Leonard!!!! Bingo!!!!! 

Now, regards to Thomas Hardiker and Jane... This had always been my assumption also,,, that he was not Catholic (actually I am fairly certain he was not Catholic), as the Beesley family definatley were very staunch. I can quite easily see that they would not have been allowed to marry unless one or the other converted to the others religion. 
I would love to find more information on his trial in 1841 as it may uncover some of the family prejudices and rivalries.   According to both Jane and Thomas's death certificates... she died a spinster and he died a batchelor... but, sadly, Thomas Hardiker did not recognize any of his children in his will.
It tells me that there must have been irreconcilable rifts that occured (he did go to prison on their behalf... sort of, after all!!!). Funnily enough, when their son 'Robert Beesley" married for the second time (after mother Jane Beesley passed away)  his fathers name of "Thomas Hardicker" was acknowledged on his  wedding certificate which was not proclaimed on his first wedding certificate while his mother was still alive!!!
Anyhow, I would be interested to see what you think about the above, early  Beesley records.
Our family have the verbal stories that our Beesleys link back to the martyr, Blessed George Beesley of "The Hill" at Goosnargh. This my goal,,, to find the connection,
sincerely
Kazzan