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The Common Room / Re: copyright
« on: Sunday 05 October 25 00:31 BST (UK)  »
I think you may be confusing copyright and plagiarism. Information in itself cannot generally be copyrighted. What sort of information did they include on the tree that you think is copyrighted?

There is no mandate that someone must cite their sources on their personal family tree. Of course it would be nice if everyone did cite their sources.

If they have posted an image or copy of a copyrighted work that you feel shouldn't be there, then you can simply contact FindMyPast support to get it resolved.
https://www.findmypast.com/help/articles/115004852045-how-can-i-contact-findmypast-

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The Common Room / Re: Where was this Will proven ?
« on: Thursday 29 May 25 05:42 BST (UK)  »
On the Ismay ONS website it says is the citation that it was from FamilySearch's film 207622 ("Index to probate records, Newcastle-upon-Tyne"). It is not clear in the catalogue exactly what is found on that film:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/results?q.filmNumber=207622

It might just not have been proved, so not found with the usual probate court records. You might need to access the film (or find someone who could do a lookup) at a Family History Center to find out.

It does say that the records filmed were from City Archives, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Might be worth an email to Tyne & Wear Archives to see if they can help track it down.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry London Baptisms
« on: Thursday 22 May 25 15:48 BST (UK)  »
Ancestry is organising the records by borough in the way that the London Archives does. See the catalogue for West Hackney Church:
https://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/P79_WH.PDF

The title:
Quote
THE LONDON ARCHIVES
WEST HACKNEY CHURCH, WEST HACKNEY: STOKE NEWINGTON ROAD, HACKNEY
P79/WH

I'm afraid to say the London Archives also uses a colon, rather than a comma. So it is the London Archives, not Ancestry, nor the Americans, who are to blame for this. You could perhaps write to the London Archives about their disagreeable use of punctuation.

I believe the London Archives uses somewhat redundant names and addresses for their churches because there were an awful lot of churches in close proximity that need to be clearly distinguished from one another.

Click the Source tab on the record of interest and you can still see the old reference (P79/WH/001).

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Why take a Y-chromosome test?
« on: Saturday 02 November 24 04:35 GMT (UK)  »
FTDNA will send you a new kit, you will need to send another sample to FTDNA.

For the Y-DNA tests such as Y-37, they are testing short tandem repeats (STRs), which are different than the autosomal tests (such as Ancestry) which use single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs). Therefore, it would not be possible for FTDNA to determine your Y-DNA data from an autosomal transfer.

The basic Y-DNA tests will give you a basic haplogroup assignment, but be aware it might not be any more specific than the predicted haplogroup from 23andme. But what may get are matches that may share recent (i.e. from the last few hundred years) common paternal ancestry. If wanting more precise matching you may want to upgrade to BigY-700 - which you can always do in the future (usually without sending in another sample).

It is luck of the draw with whether you have any matches. I have only one distant match with my own kit, but it did confirm suspicions about my surname origin. Upgrading to BigY placed me on a lonely branch of the tree (closest Big-Y match has common ancestor c.479AD). But you do get more matches with time and at some point I am sure will likely get a closer match. I also got Y-DNA kits for a couple of male cousins on my maternal side and they have many more matches, so have been more useful in that regard.

Alexander

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Child's name on 1850 census
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 05:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I think the Edwin with the Pattens in 1860 might be him, but Eliza Patten was not his aunt. I do have Sarah Peck as his likely wife although need confirmation. Unfortunately he seems to disappear after 1880.

I think it is fairly likely that Henry Slater (the father) had probably died before 1870. Reason being, his eldest daughter Helen is shown on the 1870 census that she owned real estate at value of $2000. I think it most likely she would have inherited much of this from her father. Although I haven't been able to trace a will or probate for Henry in New York, which makes me wonder if he had moved to Chicago (where many of the children ended up) or elsewhere.

Alexander

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Child's name on 1850 census
« on: Tuesday 27 August 24 00:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I have been able to trace most of the Slater children now.

Helen Slater, 1835-1927, m. David Hunter
Anna Slater, 1837-1919, m. Timothy Upton
Elizabeth Slater, 1839-1913, m(1). Robert Scrafield, m(2). George D. Hunter
H. Slater, 1840-1841
George Slater, c.1842-1871
Louisa Slater, c.1844-
Edward Slater, c.1846-, m. Sarah
Deborah Slater, 1850-1927, m. Edwin Wilks

I lost trace of Edward after 1880 in Chicago.

A few trees have Louisa as married to Asil Miles, but I don't think this is correct. I think they have the wrong Louisa.

Helpfully Elizabeth and Ann's death certificate both give their mother's surname as Bradley. There is no marriage between Henry Slater and Elizabeth Bradley in England, so I think that they must have married in New York. Henry's naturalization records show he immigrated in 1834 although I haven't been able to find a passenger list.

Still not sure what happened to Henry, seems he was alive when Elizabeth died in 1859, but no trace after that. I cannot find any of the family on the 1860 census.

Regards,
Alexander

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Marriage Licence - John Thorpe and Anne Taylor - 1788
« on: Monday 26 August 24 17:23 BST (UK)  »
The marriage licence itself very rarely survives.

You may be able to find the marriage bond or allegation in some cases, but even this does not always survive.

For Nottingham, you would usually find these in the Archdeaconry Court of Nottingham records.
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/collectionsindepth/archdeaconry/marriagebonds.aspx

Search index at:
https://mss-cat.nottingham.ac.uk/Calmview/advanced.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons

Most of the marriage bonds from Nottinghamshire were indexed in Abstracts of Nottinghamshire Marriage Licences. You can search/browse this book on Ancestry.co.uk:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/28561/

Unfortunately a quick look for John Thorpe and Ann Taylor did not bring up any results, so this may be a case where no records of the licence has survived.

Alexander

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Child's name on 1850 census
« on: Monday 26 August 24 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lisa, thanks for the directory records, I didn't have all of those.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Child's name on 1850 census
« on: Monday 26 August 24 05:18 BST (UK)  »
Turns out that the unknown child was actually Deborah.

Not sure what the enumerator thought they were writing. ;D

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