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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Tuesday 24 January 12 02:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Smudge, my dad was in the orphanage from 1912 went in as a 6 yr old and left at 12 when his mother remarried. . Did you still have relativesthere in 1912?? Like you my Dad wasnt totally orphaned, his mother was still alive but she could not afford to look after him without working. Dad's paternal grandmother was a wealthy woman, living  in Hull,  but did not help or take dad and his mother in when the father (her son died at 28) hard to believe ay!!! KiwiJane  (ps Carol has also been very helpful to me)

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: information on newlands orphanage in hull
« on: Monday 08 August 11 09:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello I attended the Newland Orphanage school for a short time (wasnt an orphan) they took children living close by.  I was there about a year in 1959/1960, then went onto Endike lane School. My aunt was a house mother at Newlands Homes -. Do you remember the Whitsunday Carnival, my father had the Toy Stall as he had a toy wholesale business in Blundells Blds. Also Bonfire night was always a great event. I have a particular interest in the orphanage on Spring Bank the Hull Seamans and General orphanage as my father was there 6 yrs from 1912-1918. I emigrated to NZ in 1973. Good luck with your research. Has anyone been to the new Hull History centre? regards KiwiJane

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Saturday 21 November 09 07:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello I am new to this too but try this - Carol gave me this instruction.
 go onto the personal profile by clicking onto the face icon just below the Avavtar...you can send  a personal message that cannot be read by anyone else.  What years are you interested in? Jane

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Wednesday 19 August 09 09:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Carol, PM you? Not sure how you mean me to communicate? KJ

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Tuesday 18 August 09 22:54 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Carol I would like a copy of the postcard. Do I post my email address here? Regards KiwiJane :

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Saturday 15 August 09 01:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi JMC and all with interests in the Hull orphanage/s.
JMC I  found the SS Sea Horse, she's included  in a book "A ships in Focus Fleet History' compiled by Arthur Credland (Curator of Hull Town Docks Museum) and Richard Greenwood. No photo unfortunately, but I copied the details for you:
Iron schooner-rigged steamer. O.N. 56135  Launched 1867 by Tod & McGregor, Glasgow, 60HP. 1868 Registered in the ownership of the Countess of Cardigan, Deane Park, Northamptonshire as SEA HORSE. 1873 sold to Sir Henry Edwards, Ashbourne, Derbyshire. 28/3/1881 Registered in the ownership of Walter S Bailey, Hull. 1883 sold to Prince di Sirignano, Parigi, Italy and renamed RONDINE. 1892 Omitted from Lloyds Register of yachts.
Like everyone hoping to get more info on the orphanage/s when the archives are opened. Regards KiwiJane

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Monday 22 June 09 03:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Wendy I have similar questions especially 2,3 and 4. If their mother was widowed thats the probably the reason - just like my father's situation, his mother was left and had no option but to go back into service which I guess provided her with a home. As fathers grandfather had been connected with the sea i presume that was the reason he was eligible for the sailers home, so like you I am looking forward to the new History centre opening so that we can get to work. How did you search the 1911 census it is on line somewhere? Hey, sounds like your rellies were there at the same time as my father. regards KiwiJane

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 09:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone interested in the Hull orphanages/childrens homes. Thought I'd add some more about my Dad's life in the orphanage. He was Reginald William Penligen born Hull 1906 (spent 6 yrs in the orphanage 1912-1918) he never said a lot either about his time there, except snippets  and the fact that it was strict , he was taught the three R's and got three meals a day. I often wonder (however sad) if it had been the best place for him during war time in the circumstances that unfolded. He got polio when just a few weeks old, he was left lame and was never a robust person, slightly built and thin but he had a great brain and did quite well in business in hull and lived till 80.  His father/mother were Cecil Avant Penligen and Ada Verney, Ada (as far as we know) was the housemaid for the Penligens. They were well off and had other staff. Ggrandad had been a sea captain born DArtmouth 1849 and  came to Hull as he sailed for the Wilson Line from about 1865 to 1901 (the year of his death, he was only 52).  I have the names of several of the ships he was captain, there is an oil painting of one, the SS China, in the Hull Town Docks Museum. So dad never knew his grandad. When his dad (Cecil) married Ada (the skivvy) it did not go down well with my ggrandmother. Sadly Cecil died very young at 28 of TB (Dad was 6). Ggrandma never took my dad and Ada in, in fact she saw my dad go into the orphanage. I often wonder if she arranged it ( it appears she was very mean) and because of the sailing history he was able to get a place. So dad spent 6 yrs there (his mother had to go back into service), but in 1918  his mother re married and he came home. He knew little about the Penligen side and its only since he's died that I have found out so much, he would have liked to have known some of his history as despite the story he was never bitter.   Early in the 1970's I worked for Sunblest Bakery on National Ave and a lady who worked there  had been in the home too and  remembered by Dad,  and she remembered especially well (with envy) the day he was allowed to go home. Unfortunately I cant remember her name but she lived near National Ave. So just a bit about dads time there - seems the children were well clothed/fed and taught the three R's, just hope they were also treated lovingly but I have no reason to believe they were badly treated. Best wishes and regards KiwiJane 

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« on: Tuesday 16 June 09 10:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bernard and all interested in the Orpanages in Hull. The one on Spring bank, The Hull Seamans and General Asylum and Schools (I didnt know it was also an asylum), my dad never mentioned that... this was the orphanage he went to. He went there when his father died and his mother had to work. The date was 1912 to 1918 (sorry not 1906) that was his birth year (senior moment)!! That orphanage became Hesslewood and later moved out of the city. My dad often talked about his days there, he once wrote a letter to the Editor of the Hull mail saying that he was very well cared for considering it was war time.  One of his jobs  was to polish the large brass door  knobs and collect litter from the grounds.  His mother used to arrange to meet him and give him things thru' the fence. I have a  picture of him in his sailors suit with his mother, she looks really sad. Fortunately his mother remarried in 1918 and he was able to go home.
Regarding The Newland Homes on Cottingham Road - that is another orphanage. I suppose there was different criteria for entry?? As others have written that home was in  beautiful grounds,  I actually went to school there for a short time (not because I was orphaned) but it took other children from the area. They had a great bonfire night and the Whit Sunday carnival was always great, my family who were toy wholesalers had a toy stall there every year for many years at the carnival  and a very close family  friend (now deceased) was a house mother there. I would like to research the records of the Hull Seamans and General orphange the one on Spring Bank at the time my dad was in residence and  if anyone has any photos I would really appreciate a copy. Regards and thanks KiwiJane

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